As a Canadian - south of the border terrifies me for what's coming next. Republicans have devolved into a NK style 'dear leader' group that is terrified of crossing Trump. 1930's Germany is here
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Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#202This was after the alleged attempted ICE ramming in Oakland last year where shots were fired but thankfully nobody died. I think there was a similar incident in LA. It would be great if there were technology to solve this problem. People perceive cars as deadly weapons and open fire and whether it’s good or not people who think they’re going to get smooshed and have a firearm will tend to use it. I didn’t see the one…
> like some sort of kill switch (no pun) that halts a vehicle if a person is in front of it. That is a horrible and dangerous reaction that does not solve the problem whatsoever. You are typing this comment with your heart, not with your brain.
We have mandatory seat belts and air bags. A sensor on the hood to insure a car is not being used as a murder weapon seems minimal in comparison. Such a sensor would save many lives including the young lady involved in the incident today. We have strict gun laws, why does it make sense to let any psycho buy a cheap used car and go kill people with it? It’s a glaring inconsistency.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
> like some sort of kill switch (no pun) that halts a vehicle if a person is in front of it. That is a horrible and dangerous reaction that does not solve the problem whatsoever. You are typing this comment with your heart, not with your brain.
We have mandatory seat belts and air bags. A sensor on the hood to insure a car is not being used as a murder weapon seems minimal in comparison. Such a sensor would save many lives including the young lady involved in the incident today. We have strict gun laws, why does it make sense to let any psycho buy a cheap used car and go kill people with it? It’s a glaring inconsistency.
Outside of the pragmatic argument of current-tech limitations for such an implementation, cars should sometimes be a weapon.
If all cars were mandated by law to not accelerate when a person is in front of them, doesn't that give carjackers pretty much guaranteed success to confront and forcibly stop their victim before stealing their car, their belongings, or taking their life?
Why would I even bother buying a nice car if I know someone can just walk up in front of its front grill and hold me at gunpoint, and my car can't help but force me to stay there?
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if she had been illegally blockading traffic for hours, that infraction is not legally punishable by execution.
It's de facto legal if you'll get away with it. Lon Horiuchi executed (sniped from a distance) an innocent woman holding a child at Ruby Ridge over what was ultimately a missed court date for a crime her husband was acquitted of. He was then promoted and went on to take part in Waco. When he was prosecuted, the feds played jurisdiction games fucking with the case until the case was so cold it was difficult to prosecu…
Illegal but unenforced is still illegal.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
You do not back up if you plan to run someone over. You go forward right through them. The person in front of her vehicle moved himself there, as she was backing up, in violation of training/procedure. Qualified immunity doesn't protect you if you aren't actually doing your job, and your job is to follow training/procedure. Edit because throttled: They are trained/procedure dictates that they do not stand in front of…
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Doesn't look like that at all to me. He wasn't hit, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to stay standing whilst shooting her in the head multiple times. Shooting her in the head made no sense anyway because of course once you're dead you just accelerate. Nothing about what he did made any sense nor was appropriate. She was clearly just trying to escape.
> People demonize ICE
ya cos they murder people lol
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
She was literally just driving down the street where there was an ice operation. The government employee that murdered her had the road blocked with his vehicle. She had to stop or drive into the oncoming lane. Traffic rules and basic safety state you stop, then proceed if safe into the oncoming lane. She waves a car to go in front of her to go before she does. She was then shouted at by agents that APPROACHED HER VE…
> Bro, you aren't anti qualified immunity, you are totally cool with it. > You are cool with this mother being murdered, and her daughter left an orphan tonight, Nope, quite the opposite, I’m just not caught up in the heat of the moment they way you are. When this is evaluated legally your emotion will not be taken into account. I specifically left emotion out of my observation and kept my observation as coldly speci…
> Recently I think the democrats have descended into utter lunacy, but GOP candidates almost never get my vote
Lol. And there we have it :)
So easy to not be emotional when your enemies are the ones being killed I guess ;)
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Edit: this was a reddit link, but the post was deleted. If you zoom in and slowly scrub the video in the google drive you'll see the same thing though. Clearly shows that, at the moment the officer fires, he is not in front of the vehicle at all. He actually moves FURTHER toward the vehicle and leans over the hood in order to get a better shot. The angle Trump tweeted of course makes it seem like she rammed him, but…
Here is the slowed down and zoomed video. https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/2008976092326203562 Here is what I see in this video… - Officer at driver side window, reaches into vehicle while simultaneously trying to open the door (I cannot fathom why an officer would be reaching in the vehicle and attempting to open the door if he was giving the driver an order to move the vehicle, but perhaps there would be a reason fo…
yeah, looks like the victim knew how to drive and didn't want to dry-steer her tyres. What a farcical tragedy
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#209At what point do U.S. citizens realise that ICE is in fact a terrorist organisation?
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Watching an innocent and beautiful American woman being shot in the face three times at point blank range in broad daylight by an agent of her own federal government while sitting in the cocoon of her car, in a confrontation that could easily have been avoided if the federal agents had simply waved her on through... this is more than "a domestic crime", as you put it. You may forget that the US drone strikes on alleg…
Why would you think that anyone outside of the US cares about what your regime does to you? I'm pointing out - for the umpteenth time - the sheer hypocrisy of the West, and especially the US. What your regime has been practising since 1945 outside of your borders has finally reached your own towns and cities, and frankly the only question I have is, what took so long?
I would expect humans to care about humans. Your judgment of hypocrisy is yours to own; you point out nothing but your own opinion.
You left umpteenth behind a long time ago; you find hypocrisy everywhere, no?