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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by HaZeust »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #139
HaZeust wrote: post #136

Another day, another incident to justify the "tree of liberty". ICE has a blank check on power overreach and qualified immunity for a domestic, dominating police state that WE DON'T NEED - and this is how they use it. Their actions are grotesque, and their words are worthless. They don't even honor what the judicial documents say that they claim to "enforce" - they flat-out ignore active asylum statuses, wait outdoor…

> This isn't a game anymore, this isn't playtime. What are you gonna do about it? The same thing is happening in Ukraine, and nobody is doing anything. There are no protests.

>"What are you gonna do about it?"

Spare me. I have my non-negotiables for when action is needed. Do you?

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by kcplate »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #127
kcplate wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a zoomed in and slowed down video circulating that shows after the driver was told to exit the vehicle that they reversed the vehicle first and then placed the car into drive (when the LEO was directly in front of her car). The driver hit the accelerator hard enough that the tires spun before they finally gained traction and moved the vehicle forward towards the officer. The velocity in which the vehicle beg…

You do not back up if you plan to run someone over. You go forward right through them. The person in front of her vehicle moved himself there, as she was backing up, in violation of training/procedure. Qualified immunity doesn't protect you if you aren't actually doing your job, and your job is to follow training/procedure. Edit because throttled: They are trained/procedure dictates that they do not stand in front of…

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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by kcplate »

tastyface wrote: post #133
kcplate wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It sounds like he is calling on the National Guard to protect against ICE? Is this the first time a state has done this? I personally think it’s the right move but this is a serious matter to have one law enforcement agency called out to protect against another law enforcement agency. If true, this is a very big deal. It’s to motivate peace and riot control due to the situation. If he had some “knucklehead” notion…

Seems pretty clear to me that state governors need to start cultivating their own State Guards, and by the thousands.

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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by fjfaase »

MC995 wrote: post #17
fzeroracer wrote: post #2

There's currently video circulating of the incident so be aware on social media. Here's the facts as I currently know: * The woman shot and killed was a bystander, an American citizen * The video shows the ICE agent just straight up killing her unprovoked, against the narrative they're currently trying to setup that she was a terrorist

> The video shows the ICE agent just straight up killing her unprovoked, against the narrative they're currently trying to setup that she was a terrorist Don't try to bend the facts while there's literal video of the confrontation, as you yourself noted. She was being commanded to step out of the vehicle (My speculation: to be arrested) and refused to do so while accelerating the vehicle quickly with an officer stand…

Just before the agents came out of their car another ICE car passed in front of her car. She was waving the agents to pass her. She could not back-up, because there were people standing/walking behind her car. She was not blocking the road, but nevertheless the ICE agents came out of their car to confront her. Context does matter.

After the women got shot, the agent who shot lost the scene taking the weapon with him, which is against all regulations. Other ICE agents prevented medical help from a doctor who identified himself as such and the blocked an ambulance, making them complicit with the murder as she might have been saved if she had gotten medical treatment immediately.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by [deleted] »

zingababba wrote: post #72
Tadpole9181 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ICE has no legal ability to detain or arrest citizens or enforce traffic laws. So, regardless, they should have called the police.

I'm not debating that. I'm just wondering if anyone has seen vid from the lead-up so I can see for myself.

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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by koakuma-chan »

HaZeust wrote: post #141
koakuma-chan wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This isn't a game anymore, this isn't playtime. What are you gonna do about it? The same thing is happening in Ukraine, and nobody is doing anything. There are no protests.

>"What are you gonna do about it?" Spare me. I have my non-negotiables for when action is needed. Do you?

If you are asking me, it's pretty clear an "action" is already needed. I would never take "action" personally though.
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