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Ryanair fined €256M over ‘abusive strategy’ to limit ticket sales by OTAs

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Post by MrMorden »

542354234235 wrote: post #213
kalleboo wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Historically (like, 15+ years ago when I did the SEA backpacking circuit) there have been some cards with ridiculous fees for international transactions. Like, a flat $10 per transaction. Back then when I saw prompts like this on card terminals I assumed it was targeted at those cardholders (or people who had heard stories of those and were unsure and worried what they would be charged and wanted to be reassured by a…

Just so everyone is aware, it is still considered a foreign transaction regardless of which option you pick. So if you are using a card that charges for that, then you will be charged a foreign transaction fee. It is a foreign transaction fee, not foreign currency fee.

Except American Express, which does have foreign currency fees (on some cards).

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Post by MrMorden »

0_____0 wrote: post #77
dwood_dev wrote: post #64

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ATMs all over are like this. Very annoying. I have to decline conversation all the time. The ATM conversation rate is usually 15-25% markup. No thanks, my bank charges nothing, just passes on the Visa 1% fee for fx.

*conversion Although it is amusing to imagine an ATM that accosts you verbally with smalltalk when you use it.

Surely if the ATM were to taunt you it would use C, or maybe JavaScript.

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Post by im3w1l »

gs17 wrote: post #114
arethuza wrote: post #99

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Ryanair used to do some things that were quite remarkably devious - the option to not by travel insurance was in the middle of drop-down list of countries! To make sure I had remembered that correctly I looked it up and here is a description of it: https://www.insurancetimes.co.uk/ryanair-to-change-hidden-tr... NB I've travelled with Ryanair quite a lot and actually don't mind the actual flights but it is wise to man…

> However he disagreed that the ‘don’t insure me’ option was hidden, and said that 98% of Ryanair’s passengers could “find a way to decline insurance”. I'm not surprised, but still a bit impressed by the ability to lie like this. Somehow I doubt even 9% of their passengers would know it was between Denmark and Finland.

You can use keyboard to navigate a dropdown box by typing initial letters.

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Post by iberator »

dmaa wrote: post #90

I don't understand this hate on Ryanair. Just treat it for what it is, a super cheap airline if you avoid all the upsells. No one is being forced do fly with them.

Sometimes you ARE forced to fly with them. Some airports have contracts with them etc etc

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Post by carlosjobim »

patall wrote: post #133
wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #104

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Ryanair does lots of shitty things, but I dont see why an airline should be forced to resell to shitty agencies taking a an unecessary cut instead of consumers buying directly with the Airline.

I actually wonder how much traffic they lose this way. My employer doesn't allow me to book with them because the agent doesn't list them. Even though I want to go to Cambridge, quite annoying.

If your job is paying, why do you complain?

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Post by ruszki »

aiiotnoodle wrote: post #216
mdhb wrote: post #195

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Do you not own a pair of headphones?

Having been trapped on a 2 day flight to Madeira via Madrid, Porto and Porto Santo, eventually your powerbanks and headphones run out of charge. EU621 comp was denied because the aircraft could not land due to wind. I did spend about 12 hours in a fancy all inclusive on ryanair's dime (a bus arrived at the airport un-announced to the airport staff or us customers) while some slept in airbnbs and on the floor.

You can reimburse your costs of unplanned overnight stay, even when it happened because of weather. So those AirBnBs were also free. Even the taxi to and from there. Ryanair was unlawful if they hadn’t given this information.

Btw, there are power banks and headphones which can easily handle 2 days.

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Post by jonasdegendt »

ruszki wrote: post #203
vosper wrote: post #148

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Starlink on flights could put an end to this

Could? I flew a month ago on a flight with Starlink. I downloaded 10s of gigabytes of data without hiccups. Calling was not an issue. And it was completely free.

Quite curious, which route was this on?

Not one time have I had a consistent internet connection whilst flying transatlantic on Delta, KLM or BA airplanes, to the point that I regretted having paid for it every single time.

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Post by ruszki »

jonasdegendt wrote: post #227
ruszki wrote: post #203

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Could? I flew a month ago on a flight with Starlink. I downloaded 10s of gigabytes of data without hiccups. Calling was not an issue. And it was completely free.

Quite curious, which route was this on? Not one time have I had a consistent internet connection whilst flying transatlantic on Delta, KLM or BA airplanes, to the point that I regretted having paid for it every single time.

Qatar/Virgin Australia, Sydney->Doha. I’ve never had really good connection either before this, and I tried many-many times. That was the exception when it worked as intended.

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Post by carlosjobim »

hs586 wrote: post #180
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #160

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My one and only experience with Ryanair was that they were rude and hostile even in places where they weren't trying to fleece you. From in-your face rude signs (official, corporate designed ones, not something printed from Word by a random employee), to a UI where you needed to concatenate strings in order to craft a valid input (something like "enter your credit card number, followed by #, followed by the MMYY vali…

When was this? I have zero recollection of ever doing credit card number formatting anywhere.

He didn't mean it literally. Read the comment more carefully.

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Post by carlosjobim »

Stevvo wrote: post #118
hs586 wrote: post #57

I have found myself to be the only person in many conversations defending Ryanair. People complain about legroom, everything being a paid add-ons, you name it. The key is to treat it like a bus that takes you from A to B, sometimes cheaper than a bus, not some sort of luxury experience. The times when flying was luxury is over. And I benefitted from it greatly as a student, so have many shown by Ryanair's passenger n…

A bus is generally a far more pleasant experience. When taking bus you are not herded like cattle into pens based on priority queue status. When a bus has technical issue, they don't hold you hostage on-board for hours to avoid paying compensation. in Europe, a long-distance bus has the comfort of a business class airplane seat.

Do you love that bus so much that you want to sit in it for 30 hours?
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