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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by [deleted] »

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #253
petcat wrote: post #80

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> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Doesn't Europe actually have a lot of Chinese equipment in their telecom infrastructure? Is this an effort just to try not to make that mistake again?

How was it a mistake? Europe got a lot of good telecom infrastructure for a low price. There's no evidence it was compromised. It was actually the US that was pressuring Europe to get rid of Chinese telecom equipment, as part of the first Trump administration's broader strategy against China.

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Post by drysine »

DaSHacka wrote: post #269
drysine wrote: post #181

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>the EU has LITERALLY provided less aid to Ukraine than it has given to Russia The EU is buying resources from Russia, not providing aid to it.

Potato, Potato. Whether giving money with no strings attached or some strings attached, guess where that money is going to go.

They are not "giving" money. They are exchanging them for resources. Russia gets the money but loses resources which it could've sold to other countries instead.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by drysine »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #336
drysine wrote: post #184

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Oh, so US is giving up their claims to Purto Rico, Alaska, Hawaii, etc? Or are American imperalists holding on to their colonies?

Worst of all, they are holding on the most of North America

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Post by carlosjobim »

phatfish wrote: post #152
carlosjobim wrote: post #112

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The EU is not Europe. I never see any pro-EU sentiment anywhere besides on HN and Reddit. Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Except for the Germans.

Which Europeans have you "talked" to? Discord and twitter don't count. People moan about the EU like they moan about their own national government. Opinion polls on actually leaving the EU show a minority in favour. Most Europeans saw Brexit play out and realise sticking the finger up at your neighbours is not a winning strategy.

I guess real life doesn't count either? Good that we can rely on HN and Reddit, where the pro-EU sentiment is strong. I just haven't seen that in real life, which is why I suggest maybe it might be particular to Germans and probably Belgians and Dutch.

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Post by selkin »

general1465 wrote: post #31
jillesvangurp wrote: post #20

Much of what people call cloud is a commodity at this point. If you need vms, object storage, load balancers, vpcs, etc., which is what most people would need, that works in a lot of solutions. And you can usually also find managed databases, redis, and a few other bits and bobs. If you like Kubernetes (I personally don't), the whole point of that is that it kind of works everywhere. People over pay for AWS mostly be…

> If you are married to AWS, that's a weakness in itself I have tried Lambdas and then got this "oh-shit moment" when I have realized that if AWS would be to kick me out, I would be absolutely screwed. Now I am slowly dispersing and using VMs instead and avoiding all the AWS-specific stuff as much as I can.

If your threat model is AWS deciding you break their AUP, the issue is with you doing AUP breaking stuff. This ain’t your personal Google Play account.

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Post by carlosjobim »

Lapel2742 wrote: post #182
carlosjobim wrote: post #112

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The EU is not Europe. I never see any pro-EU sentiment anywhere besides on HN and Reddit. Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Except for the Germans.

> Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Maybe you should get out of your right-wing bubble. - EU approval among its citizens hits record high as security fears grow, poll shows ( https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-approval-among-its-c... ) - Nearly three quarters of EU citizens (74%) say that, taking everything into account, their country has benefited from being a mem…

I don't give very much for statistics and opinion polls. People tend to give the answer they think they're "supposed to give" in those. I base my assessment on my experience from talking to people in real life.

> Maybe you should get out of your right-wing bubble.

Your comment is nasty, but I don't think you're this nasty in real life. Probably you're just blowing off some steam online.

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Post by letmetweakit »

DaSHacka wrote: post #286
letmetweakit wrote: post #32

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It's better than having the rug pulled from under your company one day. This is the point in history we're at unfortunately.

> It's better than having the rug pulled from under your company one day. This is the point in history we're at unfortunately. Source?

Source??? A US administration that is completely out of control.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by carlosjobim »

ulfw wrote: post #208
carlosjobim wrote: post #112

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The EU is not Europe. I never see any pro-EU sentiment anywhere besides on HN and Reddit. Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Except for the Germans.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Stop generalising. You don't know what Europeans think at all "except for the Germans"

I have an idea of what I'm talking about. I say that the EU is not Europe. Nor is Europe the EU. People in these conversations need to understand the difference, because it is significant. Norway, Great Britain, Iceland and Switzerland aren't in the EU.

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Post by andsoitis »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #330
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #88

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Europe will just end up doing whatever is cheapest. It's the same story as always. They'll say some stuff publicly but they'll quietly come back to American tech once they see the price tag difference. They're very cost sensitive and their investors are extremely risk-averse.

US says that Europe is their number one enemy. Using American tech is the most risky thing you can do since Trump declared that they are now a hostile enemy with intents of overthrowing European democracies.

> US says that Europe is their number one enemy.

Pardon my French, but where do you get that nonsense from?

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by Jon_Lowtek »

breve wrote: post #4

A necessary step to reduce risk to infrastructure given that the US government has become erratic and has decided it is now anti-Europe. The US means to undermine the EU: https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-h... The US means to annex European territory: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure.…

this is not a new issue: airbus has been the victim of corporate espionage supposedly by boeing with aid by the nsa in a well documented case in november 2011, and they are not the only victim of US government agency supported corporate espionage: investigations into the selector lists that ran in the cabinet noir at DE-CIX have shown that a large part of them were targeting european corporations. and that predates the cloud act of 2018, which made american infrastructure significantly less trustworthy.
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