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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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I mean scaling up - growing the organization.

That should not be a goal of a nonprofit. The goal should be to make a browser, not a vehicle to justify the CEO's obscene salary.

lol - you are really looking for a fight.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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You do realise their userbase has been consistently dwindling right? For the last decade almost.

Naturally - losing a few hundred million users is likely why they are trying to find a different strategy than focusing on privacy or what power users comment on in the following decade and expecting better results for some reason. Mozilla's funding comes almost entirely from the Google search deal. They can't afford to let the user count continue to dwindle on a principled stance alone. They either need to find work…

I am saying power users bring general audience. Thats alwas the case. Whether it is tesla/saas/browser or ur new notebook app... the power users pay/invest time initially. They talk, the promote they bring the initial general audience and from there, it becomes commonly used. Firefox is losing their power users and are not getting general audience.

Unless you can show increase in userbase with any of the BS Mozilla has done recently against their community, I'm not sure how I can agree with you.

They started this around 2015. One freaking decade with zero results. Apart from increase in Mitchell Baker's salary YoY, I dont see anything else increasing. In fact they sold Rust and MDN to their competition.

Most importantly, community unrest has only increased. Not decreased. And the userbase dwindling aligns with the same. So tell me, make me, a "GNU fanboi" understand how I am being unreasonable.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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A browser with current definition obviously doesn't "need" AI. And we also know all too well how it's going to turn out - they will both use the AI to push ads onto us and also collect and sell our personal data. However, a strong locally-executed AI would have potential to vastly improve our experience of web! So much work is done in browsers could be enhanced or automated with custom agents. You'd no longer need an…

You must use extensions for very different things than I do.

Maybe? I block popups, use privacy badger to deprive the usual suspects of my data, use one extension for finer control over video playback speed and one more to make reddit redirect back to old interface. I only use 7 of them because of security nightmare they are in general.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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A browser with current definition obviously doesn't "need" AI. And we also know all too well how it's going to turn out - they will both use the AI to push ads onto us and also collect and sell our personal data. However, a strong locally-executed AI would have potential to vastly improve our experience of web! So much work is done in browsers could be enhanced or automated with custom agents. You'd no longer need an…

These are all the same sort of vaporware promises that come straight from every AI booster. These features will never exist and you should feel bad for pretending they might.

Maybe you could voice your actual grievance in more details?

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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The wider point here is that you can only use FF as long as Mozilla can fund it and Mozilla can only fund it as long as Google funds them. At some point, it will be cheaper for Google to pay monopoly fines than funding Mozilla.

Fines aren't a way to just buy your way out of obeying the law. At some point if they persist in monopolistic activities then they will get broken up.

The last time that happened was almost half a century ago afaik. I highly doubt Big Tech entities will get broken up in our lifetime

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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There may not be "a solution", but recognizing FUD for what it is, is a part of the "whole" solution. If you don't have something to contribute (like a direction, suggestion, correction), then as they used to say, you are "part of the problem".

Shaming organizations into changing course sometimes works. And even if it's useless that doesn't make it FUD.

I think when there's overblown criticism (does not take into account the positive things, seeks only to paint in a negative light), that's pretty clearly FUD.

Moreover, when there's a pattern of it occurring, for at least the past 5 years...

Not saying that firefox is perfect, I have issues with its project leadership too, but its nowhere near as bad as the (most vocal) critics like to claim.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Could you summarize this into an argument of your own?

That's kinda my point, this was already argued like 80 years ago.

> Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Could you summarize this into an argument of your own?

"I want to discriminate against others but still claim to be righteous."

Bad-faith putting words into my mouth. Take that shit elsewhere please.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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"Hacker News commenters are frequently unaware that their use cases and customer preferences do not reflect the average customer demand in the market." - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46192577 There's a reason I put that in my profile. :^)

One of my favorite examples of this is when HNers insist that if only an auto-manufacturer would make a simple car with tactile buttons and no screen or creature comforts it would sell like hotcakes.

I think those could sell, but you'd have to make the screens a luxury trim item again. Which could honestly happen if vehicle Right to Repair laws happen.

But we're way off topic here. :D

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Your points are valid. But what made me finally switch was that it is open source, that it has been out for roughly a decade now, and that Brendan Eich's opinions from 2014 are mostly based on his Catholic faith at the time (which obviously is likely to have changed/evolved now that we're a decade later). > Moreover, I don't really understand how Brave expects to be a viable business without deeply betraying their us…

> which obviously is likely to have changed/evolved now that we're a decade later I refuse to make any assumptions there. Either he says he changed, or I treat him like he hasn't changed.

> Either he says he changed, or I treat him like he hasn't changed.

That kind of attitude is why things like right to be forgotten are being pushed. The world isn't set in stone.

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