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Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user? Chrome is able to capture the mass consumer market, due to Google’s dark pattern to nag you to install Chrome anytime you’re on a Google property. Edge target enterprise Fortune 500 user, who is required to use Microsoft/Office 365 at work (and its deep security permission ties to SharePoint). Safari has Mac/iOS audience via being the default on those platform (and deep platf…

> Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user? These days, it seems to be people who: * Don't want to be using a browser owned by an ethically dubious corporation * Want a fully functional ad blocker * Prefer vertical tabs

* But don't really care about privacy that much

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user? Chrome is able to capture the mass consumer market, due to Google’s dark pattern to nag you to install Chrome anytime you’re on a Google property. Edge target enterprise Fortune 500 user, who is required to use Microsoft/Office 365 at work (and its deep security permission ties to SharePoint). Safari has Mac/iOS audience via being the default on those platform (and deep platf…

Ostensibly nerds. Linux users and maybe Mac users. Technical people who understand more about the software industry than all Mozilla Corp management since Brendan. It's difficult to monetize us when the product is a zero dollar intangible, especially when trust has been eroded such that we've all fled to Librewolf like you said. It's difficult to monetize normies when they don't use the software due to years of conti…

Mozilla is (or at least started as) a nonprofit. Even corporation is only there to fulfill the nonprofit goals. They shouldn't even be thinking about monetization they should be thinking about getting donations and securing grants.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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I use Firefox because I don't want to use a browser provided by an advertising company e.g. Chrome.

Yet ... with firefox that is exactly what you are using. Except there's a proxy in the middle (Mozilla).

It isn't even indirect anymore since Mozilla bought an advertising company.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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post #555
post #25

Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user? Chrome is able to capture the mass consumer market, due to Google’s dark pattern to nag you to install Chrome anytime you’re on a Google property. Edge target enterprise Fortune 500 user, who is required to use Microsoft/Office 365 at work (and its deep security permission ties to SharePoint). Safari has Mac/iOS audience via being the default on those platform (and deep platf…

It's an island of trust in an ocean of predatory capitalism.

It was that once.

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And people don't have to all agree on the same things. People can get together to work towards cause X and then individually believe in mutually exclusive causes alpha, beta, gamma.

Queer people aren't causes, they're people. Imagine I worked on the Brave browser, and in my personal time maintained a website aimed at discouraging personal relationships with him. This would probably make me difficult to work with, despite my personal views not impacting the quality of my work. You might say these examples aren't one-to-one, and you're right. My example doesn't actually push any legislation forbid…

Marriages aren't people. And you probably unknowingly depend on a lot of people that despise many things you consider part of your identity. Touch grass and let people have opinions different from your own.

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If you were on a hiring committee, and your otherwise-qualified-candidate had a political opinion you objected to in this way, perhaps with a similar donation, would you refuse to hire them?

Depends what you mean by “political opinion”. If it’s about government fiscal policy, probably not. If it’s more along the lines of discriminating against or undermining people’s rights, then yeah I would refuse to hire them.

Perhaps we need stronger laws against discrimination then.

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Ok. I actually think you ought to be able to refuse to hire somebody you disagree with like that. I think you would be very wrong in doing so, though.

Would it be wrong to refuse to hire a neonazi? What kind of people do you think your organization will attract if you start hiring neonazis?

Ones that are sane enough not to bring culture war drama to the office.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Could you summarize this into an argument of your own?

"I want to discriminate against others but still claim to be righteous."

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> Standards should be higher for folks with more power. Joe Biden voted for the "Defense of Marriage Act", Yet many LGBT people supported him becoming president.

Supporting one of two candidates in a first past the post election is simply supporting the lesser evil. There is no other information to glean.

Same goes for CEOs.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Librewolf

Would any of these soft forks survive without Mozilla working on Firefox?

Depends, will I win the jackpot?

The forks do not currently have the manpower to take up the full maintenance of a browser but that does not mean it's impossible that they'll be able to rally enough developers in case Mozilla implodes. A lot of people want a truly free browser to exist. Currently Firefox (barely) manages to fulfill that role and keeps many of those people from spending their time/money on alternatives.

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