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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by MarsIronPI » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 1:24 PM UTC

kakacik wrote: post #833

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> All seemingly low-hanging fruit with brand alignment. Genuinely interested: are you a developer? Doesn't sound like low-hanging fruit to me. There are already many alternatives to Gmail, I don't think Mozilla would make a lot of money there. And I don't know if they are making a lot of money with their Mozilla VPN (which I understand is a wrapper around Mullvad): why would I pay Mozilla instead of Mullvad? There ar…

A reliable, corporate-friendly, with advanced support model alternative of Exchange + AD is something that could sink a titan like Microsoft in 2 decades, at least its non-cloud business (but then for cloud alone they are just one of many, nothing special there). Literally everybody is fu*king fed up with M$ arrogance. But you can't get rid of Active Directory and Exchange. Make comparable alternative (with say 80% o…

> A reliable, corporate-friendly, with advanced support model alternative of Exchange + AD is something that could sink a titan like Microsoft in 2 decades, at least its non-cloud business (but then for cloud alone they are just one of many, nothing special there).

Ooh, imagine if they also threw in some kind of Teams alternative, maybe based on XMPP or Matrix! That might get a lot of attention.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by apothegm » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 1:25 PM UTC

jmiskovic wrote: post #330

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What even is an "AI browser"? It's a browser, it's mainly supposed to render web pages / web apps. There is no obvious reason why it would need any AI features.

A browser with current definition obviously doesn't "need" AI. And we also know all too well how it's going to turn out - they will both use the AI to push ads onto us and also collect and sell our personal data. However, a strong locally-executed AI would have potential to vastly improve our experience of web! So much work is done in browsers could be enhanced or automated with custom agents. You'd no longer need an…

You must use extensions for very different things than I do.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by high_na_euv » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 1:26 PM UTC

avazhi wrote: post #707

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You personally wouldn't use live captions and dubbing, so there's no point building it for the millions of people who need it as an accessibility feature?

They can use addons, but it shouldn’t be built in to the browser. Not all that complicated.

Because of what?

Why it must be addon? Because Ai has negative connotations?

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by zamadatix » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 1:27 PM UTC

unsungNovelty wrote: post #710

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I'm not saying whether they should/shouldn't get pushback about these things - just that 95% of this pushback in places like this comes from Firefox definitely has a general audience much larger than any measure of power users. More than half of the users don't have a single extension installed, and that counts language pack extensions. Half have The average Firefox user is nothing like you or I, nor will they find t…

Most people who has Firefox installed is either installing because that's what they have always used or is using because someone recommended it. They have to be explicitly installed. Keep that in mind. Don't you remember firefox installation fest and stuff? That 1% pushes Firefox to non-users at home, in their companies and where not. That 1% is responsible for a lot of the rest of the 99%. The folks Mozilla is tryin…

I agree most either have used it for a long time or because someone recommended it. It's nearly tautological. I disagree the recommendations for the average user only/primarily come from The 200 million normal users can also recommend trying to use Firefox all the time to their friends again, they just don't have a reason to do so because often, for their cares, Chrome and others are the ones with better target to them. Pre-installs is definitely a problem, as it always has been, but it never stopped Firefox before.

If the non-tech person wakes up one day and decides privacy is a key concern for the browser then they join the few that learn about each in this detail and pick from there and the niche has a new member. When things like 1,000,000,000 people wake up and decided mobile performance and battery life were important for years it resulted in Firefox having next to no presence on mobile more than any other reason.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by high_na_euv » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 1:28 PM UTC

avazhi wrote: post #706

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Live captions and dubbing can be a game changer for: - non native speakers - moving away from the english-centric web - impaired people

Couldn’t care less about any of that. English is the world’s dominant language and will remain so for the foreseeable future. There’s nothing wrong with that. And subtitles exist already or can be generated by addons. Most people don’t use them. So, once again, maybe don’t inconvenience the vast majority of users for some small subset of the population.

Just say that you dont care about other ppl, that's it, lol.

English proficiency is pretty high bar. Thats multi year effort

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by MarsIronPI » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 1:28 PM UTC

fsflover wrote: post #808

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Don't close your eyes from reality. I am forced to use a phone app to log in into any of the several banks that I use. There is no web version.

I use Librem 5 as a daily driver. I switched my bank to avoid an app. I do my banking on their website.

> I switched my bank to avoid an app.

When feasible, this sounds like a great reason to switch banks. If enough people did this, banks would all offer web apps instead of forcing native apps.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by MarsIronPI » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 1:31 PM UTC

roenxi wrote: post #496

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>Firefox - the one thing they do not want to work on I'm sorry but this is complete nonsense. Just this year they pushed 12 major releases, with thousands of patches, including WebGPU efficiency improvements, updated PDF engine, numerous security fixes, amounting to millions of lines of new code. They maintain a codebase that rivals that of Chrome and of the Linux Kernel and push the equivalent of Rust's entire codeb…

> They maintain a codebase that rivals that of Chrome and of the Linux Kernel and push the equivalent of Rust's entire codebase on a monthly basis. Is that comparison supposed to make their management of the code base seem better or worse? Chrome, Linux and Rust are arguably colossi in their niches (Rust having the weakest claim). Firefox's niche is Chrome's and it doesn't do that well. It used to be that at least Fi…

You might be interested to know that there are still some legacy extensions that work on today's Firefox. Specifically, when Firefox breaks VimFX, I'm done with it. But while it works, I'm sticking with Firefox. It's like having the power of Qutebrowser but with the extensions and performance of Firefox.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by sneak » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 1:39 PM UTC

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lots of people seem to trust apple

Apple has actually proven itself over a long period of time on this issue. Maybe Mozilla has as well (do they encrypt telemetry logs etc for people with a Mozilla login?) but I haven't heard so much about that.

Wrong. Apple explicitly preserves a backdoor in the e2ee of iMessage for the USG.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by internet2000 » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 1:41 PM UTC

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How so? You can tap the from / to fields and it shows the addresses.

When you tap one of those fields it bounces you to a contact card. If it is an existing contact (for example, yourself), you just get the full contact card. If that contact card has multiple addresses (my contact card lists ten), you get no indication of which one it was sent to. At some point in time the actual email address used was flagged with a little “recent” badge - by itself a confusingly-worded tag - but eve…

> When you tap one of those fields it bounces you to a contact card.

They've changed that behavior a few versions ago: https://i.imgur.com/J965L1Z.png

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by Dylan16807 » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 4:48 PM UTC

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Are you trying to say that complaining about Mozilla's mistakes supports monopolies? If yes then that's an unreasonable standard to hold people to. If no then I can't figure out what your comment means.

Not at all. To clarify, saying something is "over", without really saying what your plan is, is low effort. "This is a problem, and here is what I/we should do", takes a bit more effort. Firefox is still open source last I checked. You can still contribute, write bugs, write letters to the CEO, etc... I'm only taking issue with tendency people have to throw shade without offering a solution.

"low effort" is a completely different statement from supporting monopolies. If that's what you actually meant, sure I guess.

But it's really hard for a normal person to do much about steering firefox other than helping raise a fuss.

Sometimes there isn't "a solution".