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Post by unsungNovelty »

zamadatix wrote: post #844
unsungNovelty wrote: post #710

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Most people who has Firefox installed is either installing because that's what they have always used or is using because someone recommended it. They have to be explicitly installed. Keep that in mind. Don't you remember firefox installation fest and stuff? That 1% pushes Firefox to non-users at home, in their companies and where not. That 1% is responsible for a lot of the rest of the 99%. The folks Mozilla is tryin…

I agree most either have used it for a long time or because someone recommended it. It's nearly tautological. I disagree the recommendations for the average user only/primarily come from The 200 million normal users can also recommend trying to use Firefox all the time to their friends again, they just don't have a reason to do so because often, for their cares, Chrome and others are the ones with better target to th…

You do realise their userbase has been consistently dwindling right? For the last decade almost.

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Post by stainablesteel »

DEI and ESG don't work anymore, now people are latching onto AI wherever they can

they're all just marketing scams. if these people actually implement AI in ways that isn't needed it just kills the product

the built-in language translation feature of firefox is great, because it's locally ran

i don't want my browser fetching commands from random servers just to implement AI in a browser that was working fine without it

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by LunaSea »

Orygin wrote: post #825
LunaSea wrote: post #822

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I don't defend Brave adding this feature or believe that it is even a good idea but how does this constitute a scam?

> I don't defend Brave Maybe not, but you spend quite some time spitting on Mozilla for taking money from Google.

Yes, because (1) they spent that money badly as can be seen from the non-Google revenue numbers of Mozilla and Firefox's market share and (2) people are comparing practices of a company that gets $500M for free and a practices of a company that is essentially bootstrapped, which makes no sense.

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Post by Tepix »

aydyn wrote: post #790
hermanzegerman wrote: post #785

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He is saying that no one outside of the US will trust them with their data, because of the US Cloud Act and similar legislation. There is a reason Proton & Co are based in Switzerland and not in the US

lots of people seem to trust apple

Yes but Apple is also avoiding collecting a huge amount of data, e.g. by doing things on-device.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by moogly »

wtallis wrote: post #676
moogly wrote: post #664

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> Sure, living with the nuisance of the advertising and UI clutter is an option about:config extensions.pocket.enabled set to `false`. That's how hard that used to be.

Anything requiring messing with about:config is an unreasonable way to treat non-technical users. And the point I've already made that you're ignoring is that the complexity of the workaround is not the problem—the necessity of taking action to disable Pocket is what was most concerning about what Mozilla did.

I found no value in Pocket and it was annoying to have to disable it once per machine but you didn't have to "live with it" as claimed. That's just ridiculously overdramatic.

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Post by mrguyorama »

mattmaroon wrote: post #486
DANmode wrote: post #411

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Well, then I’ve gotta bust your balls here and tell you to step away from the Win98 machine, because that’s been around for some time. Even secure, privacy-respecting versions!

It's weird when someone's wish list is something you've been doing for years for free.

I would love if there was some magic way I could share my passwords between my desktop and phone Firefox installs without a damn login or account, because I don't want a damn account.

Maybe like a couple large QR codes or something.

But golly that's a niche request.

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Post by dig1 »

DaSHacka wrote: post #502
dig1 wrote: post #357

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chromium-ungoogled works perfectly fine with "extensions that can do real ad blocking" ;)

Ungoogled Chromium is maintaining Manifest V2 support in the fork?

AFAIK Manifest v2 is still part of the chromium codebase, and there is an intention to continue supporting it, depending on how difficult that turns out to be.

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Post by e2le »

CuriousRose wrote: post #658
gkoberger wrote: post #275

Having worked at Mozilla a while ago, the CEO role is one I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Success is oddly defined: it's a non-profit (well, a for-profit owned by a non-profit) that needs to make a big profit in a short amount of time. And anything done to make that profit will annoy the community. I hope Anthony leans into what makes Mozilla special. The past few years, Mozilla's business model has been to just m…

Fully agree with this. - Mozilla SSL Certs - for corporations that don't want Let's Encrypt - Mozilla Mail - a reliable Exchange/Google Mail alternative (desperately needed imo) - Thunderbird for iOS - why is this not a thing yet? - Mozilla Search - metasearch that isn't based on Bing/DDG/Google - Mozilla HTTPS DNS - although Cloudflare will probably always do this better All seemingly low-hanging fruit with brand al…

> Mozilla Mail

Aren't they already moving towards this? The Thunderbird team recently announced ThunderMail which will have an optional $9/year plan.

https://www.tb.pro/en-US/thundermail/

> Thunderbird for iOS

https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/10/state-of-the-bird-2024-...

> We’ve also seen the overwhelming demand to build a version of Thunderbird for the iOS community. Unlike the Android app, the iOS app is being built from the ground up.

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Post by mplewis »

jmiskovic wrote: post #330
this_user wrote: post #141

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What even is an "AI browser"? It's a browser, it's mainly supposed to render web pages / web apps. There is no obvious reason why it would need any AI features.

A browser with current definition obviously doesn't "need" AI. And we also know all too well how it's going to turn out - they will both use the AI to push ads onto us and also collect and sell our personal data. However, a strong locally-executed AI would have potential to vastly improve our experience of web! So much work is done in browsers could be enhanced or automated with custom agents. You'd no longer need an…

These are all the same sort of vaporware promises that come straight from every AI booster. These features will never exist and you should feel bad for pretending they might.

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Post by armedpacifist »

freehorse wrote: post #801
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #787

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Why is Brave getting hate? Their browsers are treating me very well on mobile and desktop. I am always horrified when I see how the web looks for other people with all ads.

For many reasons, one being that they were injecting urls with their affiliate codes to unsuspecting users.

This was in 2020. Brendan Eich addressed this in a blogpost iirc, with a perfectly plausible explanation. It seemed like a bad/unfortunate design decision, which happens all the time in software development and not the conspiracy theory people claimed it to be. It was fixed in a matter of days.

If this is the main reason to not use Brave then I'm genuinly interested in hearing about the other reasons. I might learn something I wasn't aware of.

I don't understand all the hate Brave gets either. It passes pretty much all privacy tests ootb and I see 0 ads, on desktop and mobile. This is what actually matters to me.

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