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Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by oconnore »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #24
Andrex wrote: post #8

The Maverick used to be the truck but they've jacked it by like almost twice the price since debut. With so much "upmarket momentum" the e-F150's days were numbered. Now I'm sitting here wondering when we'll get another small Ford truck again. This same exact story played out with the Ranger and the decades without a smaller option sucked then too.

> Now I'm sitting here wondering when we'll get another small Ford truck again. This same exact story played out with the Ranger... It's so bizarre to me because the Ranger used to be small. But then they became the size that an F-150 used to be (i.e. sane truck size), while the F-150 became enormous . Supposedly it's due to perverse incentives from regulation, so I wouldn't hold my breath for a smaller truck if that…

I'm not sure which dimensions you're talking about, but in terms of bed size the F-150 has been very consistent over the years (although I think Crew Cabs — although they always existed — have become more popular). The Ranger still cannot fit a full sized sheet of plywood flat in the bed.

Quick research: the new Ranger's bed size has only increased 0.9" (width) relative to the 1990 version. Bed length seems to be the same.

Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by psunavy03 »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #28
xoa wrote: post #20

I've been in the market for an electric truck for a solid 5 years now to replace my aging Nissan Frontier. There has yet to be anything attractive at all that has made it into production at any price I've been able to find. Everything seems to be a gas truck with some electric stuff shoehorned in not taking advantage of the new design opportunities at all, and generally with a little 4' bed instead of 6.5 or 8 that I…

I have heard great things about the Rivian trucks. They seem to have rabidly loyal customers, like the Teslas.

For $70-100K, I'd hope so.

Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by sgerenser »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #5

We simply need an engineering generation of 50 mile range PHEV vehicles. It will get a huge percentage of low-efficiency driving electrified, won't be too big of a burden on the grid, educate more people on EV-style driving, adds regen braking, should still be able to provide high-torque towing and driving.

So basically a return of the Chevy Volt? I drive one for about 5 years before I went full EV and I could do about 80% of my driving on all electric.

Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by johanvts »

xoa wrote: post #20

I've been in the market for an electric truck for a solid 5 years now to replace my aging Nissan Frontier. There has yet to be anything attractive at all that has made it into production at any price I've been able to find. Everything seems to be a gas truck with some electric stuff shoehorned in not taking advantage of the new design opportunities at all, and generally with a little 4' bed instead of 6.5 or 8 that I…

Why do you need a truck? Serious question, in europe professionals have a van, like the Ford e-transit, and if you just need to haul some stuff from your summerhouse sometimes you hitch a trailer to your car. Why do you need a truck? Couldn’t you buy an electric van instead?

Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by api »

nomel wrote: post #15
charlesabarnes wrote: post #4

Wow, I was under the impression that these were selling incredibly well. I started to appreciate Ford's strategy recently after they lost my faith after they killed off sedans in the US. I'm now confused again by the company's strategy

As with all but a few EV manufactures [1], they were losing money each sale ( >$30k)[2]. [1] https://www.carscoops.com/2025/03/only-four-ev-brands-are-pr... [2] https://www.theautopian.com/ford-lost-36000-for-every-electr...

The only two car companies to make any meaningful profit on EVs were founded as EV companies first?

That’s not that surprising. It’s very hard to make elephants dance.

If that remains true it means all these auto companies will be dead in 25 years, or eternally strung along on government support.

If there were no tariffs or other market barriers I get the impression that BYD would bulldoze the entire world and there would be one car maker with >80% of the market.

Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by psunavy03 »

anticorporate wrote: post #13
jermaustin1 wrote: post #10

That is a disappointment. I was hoping that they would be introducing a new smaller EV truck in either the Maverick or Ranger line. I have no need for a large truck when something half the size handles all the hauling/towing I need.

Ditto. I'm a current Ranger owner, now seriously considering the Slate if it actually ever makes it to market.

I know they're marketing on price, but they really whiffed not offering AWD on that thing. Living in the Northwest, that's a total dealbreaker both from a skiing perspective and a getting-to-work-when-it-snows perspective.

Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by wat10000 »

tacticus wrote: post #22
vondur wrote: post #2

I would imagine for 80% of truck owners, having an electric truck is fine. However, if you are towing or carrying heavy loads, they are a bad choice. I suspect most F-150 drivers barely ever do these sorts of things. I have an F-150 but do use it to tow my travel trailer on vacation.

> However, if you are towing or carrying heavy loads, they are a bad choice. given the testing that has been done on this it's the aerodynamics that matter more than the weight. > I suspect most F-150 drivers barely ever do these sorts of things I would suspect that most of these oversized "angry boy" utes only ever see a non sealed surface when they're driving to park on footpaths.

Trouble is, while most truck drivers pretty much never tow or drive off road, most of them imagine that they will, so the truck still needs to be capable of it in order to sell. Or at least needs to appear capable.
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