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Post by deburo »

avrionov wrote: post #281
twothreeone wrote: post #174

The way I've experienced "Code Red" is mostly as a euphemism for "on-going company-wide lack of focus" and a band-aid for mid-level management having absolutely no clue how to meaningfully make progress, upper management panicking, and ultimately putting engineers and ICs on the spot to bear the brunt of that organizational mess. Interestingly enough, apart from Google, I've never seen an organization take the actual…

"Code Red" if implemented correctly should provide a single priority for the company. Engineers will be moved to the most important project(s).

Hah, it feels like Microsoft is currently in "Code Red" to implement AI features.

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

deaux wrote: post #816
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #320

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It’s really even easier than that. I already do all my work on AWS and use Bedrock that hosts every popular model and its own except for OpenAIs closed source models. I have a reusable library that lets me choose between any of the models I choose to support or any new model in the same family that uses the same request format. Every project I’ve done, it’s a simple matter of changing a config setting and choosing a…

Bedrock hosts Gemini models? Incredibly popular, currently SOTA, biggest competitor to OpenAI, those models? I don't think it does.

I forgot to mention that. But funny enough AWS and GCP made a joint announcement that they are introducing a service to let users easily connect the infrastructure of the two providers between their private networks without going over the public internet.

https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/networking/aws-and-go...

This isn’t some type of VPN solution, think more like DirectConnect but between AWS and GCP instead of AWS and your colo.

It’s posited that AWS agreed to this so sales could tell customers that they don’t have to move their workloads from AWs to take advantage of Google’s AI infrastructure without experiencing extreme latency.

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Post by wrcwill »

jdoliner wrote: post #274

I've seen a rumor going around that OpenAI hasn't had a successful pre-training run since mid 2024. This seemed insane to me but if you give ChatGPT 5.1 a query about current events and instruct it not to use the internet it will tell you its knowledge cutoff is June 2024. Not sure if maybe that's just the smaller model or what. But I don't think it's a good sign to get that from any frontier model today, that's 18 m…

im not sure why we need to go off rumours, the knowledge cutoff for each openai model is clearly listed in the table:

https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/compare?model=gpt-5....

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Post by coredog64 »

Miraste wrote: post #842
matwood wrote: post #708

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Are you saying that Google, Meta, Amazon, etc... can't do software? It's the bread and butter of these companies. The CUDA moat is important to hold off the likes of AMD, but hardware like TPUs for internal use or other big software makers is not a big hurdle. Of course Huang will lean on the software being key because he sees the hardware competition catching up.

Meta makes websites and apps. Historically, they haven't succeeded at lower-level development. A somewhat recent example was when they tried to make a custom OS for their VR headsets, completely failed, and had to continue using Android.

Remind me which company originated PyTorch?

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Post by youtubee3 »

bncndn0956 wrote: post #636
bibimsz wrote: post #352

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anecdotal, but my wife wasn't interested in switching to claude from chatgpt. as far as she's concerned chatgpt knows her, and she's got her assistant perfectly tuned to her liking.

this is my horror as well. I don't mind my youtube account to be blocked but what about all the recommendations that I have curated to my liking. It will be huge chunk of lost time to rebuild and insert my preferences into the algorithm. increasingly "our preferences shaped by time and influences and encounters both digital and offline" are as much about us as we are physically.

I have no YouTube account, and it can figure out my viewing history with just watching a few of my favorite channels usually... including specific videos I watched years ago.

So I wouldn't worry about it.

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Post by kanbankaren »

coredog64 wrote: post #854
Miraste wrote: post #842

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meta makes websites and apps. Historically, they haven't succeeded at lower-level development. A somewhat recent example was when they tried to make a custom OS for their VR headsets, completely failed, and had to continue using Android.

Remind me which company originated PyTorch?

Remind me that PyTorch is not a GPU driver.

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Post by tootie »

hodgehog11 wrote: post #117
TechRemarker wrote: post #84

Heard all the news how Gemini 3 is passing everyone on benchmarks, so quickly tested and still find it a far cry from ChatGPT in real world use when testing questions on both platforms. But importantly the ChatGPT app experience at least for iPhone/Mac users is drastically superior vs Google which feels very Google still. So Gemini would have to be drastically better answer wise than ChatGPT to lure users from a bett…

That's really fascinating. Every real world use case I've tried on Gemini (especially math-related) absolutely slaughtered the performance of ChatGPT in speed and quality, not even close. As an Android user, the Gemini app is also far superior, since the ChatGPT app still doesn't properly display math equations, among plenty of other bugs.

I would further argue the apps are all like 99% the same. And also work just fine through a browser without installing anything

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Post by pulse7 »

abixb wrote: post #397
an0malous wrote: post #176

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> for these companies They’re absolutely going to get bailed out and socialize the losses somehow. They might just get a huge government contract instead of an explicit bailout, but they’ll weasel out of this one way or another and these huge circular deals are to ensure that.

>They’re absolutely going to get bailed out and socialize the losses somehow. I've had that uneasy feeling for a while now. Just look at Jensen and Nvidia -- they're trying to get their hooks into every major critical sector as they're able to (Nokia last month, Synopsys just recently). When chickens come home to roost, my guess is that they'll pull out the "we're too big to fail, so bailout pls" card. Crazy times. I…

Nvidia is the ultimate beneficiary of the money invested (due to expensive GPUs). If Nvidia loses these good customers, it will have less revenue. So it prefers to slowly buy it's customers with this money...

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Post by sjapps »

hansmayer wrote: post #796
usef- wrote: post #572

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People did say the same thing about Youtube, which was unprofitable and extremely expensive to run in the early years. I remember thinking everyone would leave once ads were added. At youtube's ad income rate (~$13/year), the current (but growing) ~800 million chatgpt users would add ~$10 billion. At facebook's rate (~$40-50/year) $32-40 billion. Potentially, an assistant would be more integrated into your life than…

Minor difference : YT does not cost literally a human trip to Mars and back to operate

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