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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by ncruces »

throwawaymaths wrote: post #342
petersellers wrote: post #294

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> All I am saying is it is their project, their blog. They can be however much rude they want to be on their website. It's their website, their lines and their boundaries. That's funny, because if that is true he violated his own code of conduct: https://ziglang.org/code-of-conduct/#safe-constructive-only > I do but I decline to share it here The point is that everyone has different lines for what they consider to be…

read the CoC carefully, it says which spaces are governed by it. the website does not seem to be. that's deliberate, the CoC only applies to "working" spaces.

If it was a company, you'd say the CoC is meant for lackeys, not for C-suites.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by amake »

carlmr wrote: post #323
oaiey wrote: post #278

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Came here to say that. Killed my curiosity towards Zig in an instant. What a disrespect. A pity. Saw Zig as something rising but with this kind of toxicity, no thanks.

>A pity. Saw Zig as something rising but with this kind of toxicity, no thanks. Don't get me wrong, it is a bit toxic. However, I feel like taking one comment in a larger article and blowing it up out of proportion is just as toxic.

> blowing it up out of proportion is just as toxic

One person decided that something wasn't for them. How is that in the same league as someone in a leadership position being unprofessional?

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by ImHereToVote »

oaiey wrote: post #288
MarcelOlsz wrote: post #196

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I think it's a breath of fresh air. Don't want to be called out like this then stop fucking up.

Not everyone is that robust. People get hurt over things like that. Not everyone is a wizard who does not give a fuck and does not need to care. These are people for God's sake. Empathy!

Feeling empathy for their pathetic fragile existence doesn't mean you sympathise with said fragility.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by preisschild »

bikelang wrote: post #104
tonymet wrote: post #93

Coderberg is nice , but their P80s are terrible. And they are hosted in Germany, which adds a few seconds to every remote command . I wouldn’t move business critical repos there . Everyone loses their mind when GitHub goes down once every 2 years . If codeberg provided SLas , they would probably breach them weekly

I wish GH had issues only every 2 years. That’d be amazing! We see issues weekly - if not near daily - at work. Personally I advocate for self-hosted GitLab. I like their pipelines a lot more than GH Actions too.

Unfortunately, IMO Gitlab is getting enshittified too and adding llm slop features instead of improving the developer experience...

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by maybewhenthesun »

ChrisGreenHeur wrote: post #341
harry8 wrote: post #330

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There is a difference between what you say to and about volunteers working for free on their hobby and what you say about the work of a company famously known as "The Death Star" You want to work with people and the group says "yay and this is how we will work together" you do that or go away. This is entirely separate to stating a universal truth such as "Microsoft product blows because they do not care", "Oracle su…

Microsoft is actually just a group of people as well.

All companies are 'a group of people'. But that's not how you treat them. You should treat the individual employees of microsoft as the people they are. You should treat microsoft as a whole as the evil entity it is (TBF they're not worse than apple or google or etc...)

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by ImHereToVote »

Waterluvian wrote: post #151
johnfn wrote: post #95

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. > More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad ho…

Yeah this is pretty embarrassing. I get frustrated with tech all the time! I get it. Grr when Actions feels so irritatingly misbehaved… But how you handle or fail to handle your frustration demonstrates the competence of your character and speaks volumes of what you’d be like to work with.

You would be happier working in a kindergarten. I truly mean that. Think about it. Not trying to be rude.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by Groxx »

nromiun wrote: post #232
homebrewer wrote: post #228

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The only good thing about it is their very generous limits for "open source" projects (it doesn't even have to be free software AFAIK, just the source has to be visible to everyone). The CI service itself is an absolute trash fire caused by the usual Microsoft NIH, and if they have financial means not to deal with it anymore, I see no reason for them to waste their limited development time on dealing with it.

They could have easily done that without all the insults.

I would agree if they weren't so clearly deserved. Calling shit out as being shit is fine.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by brabel »

zwnow wrote: post #325
oaiey wrote: post #288

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Not everyone is that robust. People get hurt over things like that. Not everyone is a wizard who does not give a fuck and does not need to care. These are people for God's sake. Empathy!

If people get hurt over that they need to take some courses on building confidence...

Right, those black people who get offended by being called that just need confidence, right? Those LGBT are so sensitive and can’t handle the colorful names we call them! Imagine that. This kind of comment shows how HN commenters can be so incredibly hateful while thinking they are righteous, which is the worst kind of people, it’s the atitude that leads to the most terrible policies and behavior ever seen on this planet.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by bakugo »

ttiurani wrote: post #352

Looking at these comments, it's painfully apparent how many think that being polite in your communication is more important than actually doing something. I agree it would have been nicer if the message was more polite. But if you compare that to having the backbone follow through with meaningful long-term changes against a corporation you don't trust or respect, there shouldn't even be a discussion. And don't even g…

> it's painfully apparent how many think that being polite in your communication is more important than actually doing something.

The zig maintainers think that, too, thus the presence of a Code of Conduct on their website. But, as always, it's a "rules for thee, but not for me" situation - if the author was called a "monkey" by someone else, I can guarantee he would invoke the CoC to call them out, but when he does it, it's fine.

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