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Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by _djo_ » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

insane_dreamer wrote: post #475

_djo_ wrote: post #403

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Nothing should or would happen. The issue with Cuba was the stationing of nuclear missiles in Cuba, not merely its membership of a pact with the USSR. The US didn’t invade Cuba, it assisted Cuban exiles to do so in the embarrassing Bay of Pigs disaster which took place before the naval blockade as part of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Naturally, Bay of Pigs should never have happened, and it’s one of the things that led…

> Nothing should or would happen. "nothing should" is correct; "nothing would" is fantasy > The issue with Cuba was the stationing of nuclear missiles in Cuba, not merely its membership of a pact with the USSR. Yes, putting nukes there brought things to a serious crisis, but the issue with Cuba > The US didn’t invade Cuba, it assisted Cuban exiles to do so Come on, let's be real here. Sure, _technically_ the US didn'…

If we’re talking about funding and supporting local groups, activists, and insurgents, then we’re going to have to cast the net far wider and include many similar actions by the USSR and then Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Turkey, Israel, and many others.

That might be a worthwhile discussion to have, but it’s categorically not the same thing as invasion, occupation, and annexation.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by pxmpxm » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 2:40 PM UTC

10000truths wrote: post #240

anonymousiam wrote: post #228

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Your comment can be interpreted in two ways: 1) It must suck for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant to be subject to a rogue French judge. 2) It must suck for the judge to face consequences from the US.

I think the ambiguity was deliberate.

And very, very clever.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by wat10000 » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 3:19 PM UTC

brabel wrote: post #490

wat10000 wrote: post #364

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I don't think it's likely, but I do think it's possible. If the US and EU get tired of helping Ukraine, they'll have a much harder time resisting Russian attacks. Once they do, why would Russia stop? Maybe they would. Maybe they'd pause, declare peace, and take the rest a year or three later. Maybe they'd just keep going. Putin saying he doesn't want it doesn't convince me in the slightest. He's a Soviet Union revanc…

Russia would still stop because controlling the rest of Ukraine would be more trouble than it is worth for them. And they might gain some concessions from the West. Attacking NATO is a common talk point in the West about what happens after Russia takes over Ukraine and Zelenskyy is more than happy to suggest that is to be expected as he says they are fighting for all of Europe.

Invading Ukraine in the first place appears to have been far more trouble than it was worth, and it didn’t stop them.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by bjord » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 3:52 PM UTC

mothballed wrote: post #216

bjord wrote: post #148

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I'm not editorializing here. here's one of many examples: "Please, Donald Trump, kill the Jews, down to the last woman and child. Leave nothing left of the Jewish menace..." re: ukraine, I'm not sure how that's remotely relevant here and frankly I think you're doing ukrainians a profound disservice by comparing the two if you look at my background, you'll see I understand this better than most

Are you unaware that the exact same justification was used to attack the Ukrainian people? Your position here is weev is an actual neo-nazi while the Ukrainian people are not. I concede you are likely correct, and it is frankly obvious I'm not making the case they are compared as both being neo-nazis. It is still relevant because the failure mode is still paralleled, an accusation of neo-nazi and then serious state a…

I'm not and that's not my position. I thought I made it pretty clear in multiple previous comments that I think the way the US wields its power, especially considering the absolute lack of due process, is wrong. This French judge is a perfect example of some of the pitfalls and avenues for abuse.

I agree with your overall point (hence "all of the above is true") and am merely trying to make it clear that the guy you're talking about is a nazi and that I think it detracts from the argument. There are plenty of better examples.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by lucb1e » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 4:51 PM UTC

jatsek wrote: post #285

vkou wrote: post #252

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A US company is free to cut off service to whatever foreigner it wants, just like a foreign country is free to ban whatever US firm it wants from operating in it.

Please look up what happened to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras or Costa Rica when they tried banning whatever US firm they wanted.

Can you link an article or at least mention some more keywords? A super vague search query based on this information, like "costa rica banning us firm consequences", isn't turning up anything that sounds relevant

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Post by lucb1e » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 4:54 PM UTC

gold72 wrote: post #455

What a terrible site. Had to go into settings, manually reject each kind of cookie, and then there's no way to confirm, just a way to go back to the first page, and nothing to click but "accept", which seems to imply that you'll end up taking all the cookies anyway. In the end I just closed the tab without reading.

Might be interesting to know that this is one of the biggest news sites in germany and it's also illegal per https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2024/edpb-consent-or-pa...

Basically any time you search for information in german, you get this "start an indefinite subscription to open this page" or "confirm that your consent to tracking is freely given" model, which I find highly ironic given that germany is one of the main forces in european lawmaking but then doesn't actually want to comply

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 5:15 PM UTC

general1465 wrote: post #508

Stranger43 wrote: post #145

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No nor does it have logistical capability to deliver even half of the equipment currently being promised/discussed within a time-frame of less then 5-10year. It's all dependent on the national government voluntarily following the advice of Brussels, and in most cases they don't really have the resources the EU wants them to commit to "The Ukrainian nationalist Cause".

EU has enough logistical capacity, but Russian nationalists like to dismiss EU like some kind of temporary group while they are riding donkeys to battle.

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Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by goobatrooba » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 5:33 PM UTC

rzerowan wrote: post #87

nmridul wrote: post #6

> ..... he calls on the EU to activate an existing blocking regulation (Regulation (EC) No 2271/96) for the International Criminal Court, which prevents third countries like the USA from enforcing sanctions in the EU. EU companies would then no longer be allowed to comply with US sanctions if they violate EU interests. Companies that violate this would then be liable for damages. That is from that article..

Im going to go ahead and predict that the EU will not risk it.If it were China ? maybe they would pull the lever to activate this counter. Previously when the US reneged on the JCPOA viz Iran , they had a similar law/faclity that theoreticall could have been used but never was. As an addition the EU Commission is currently imposing pretty similar sanction on a Journalist [1] so yeah i dont see much movement on that l…

Thanks for promoting russian propaganda (I mean the framing and source). Unfortunately tolerance has to stop with the intolerant. For anyone actually interested in the substance of why she is banned it seems rather clear and reasonable from the official EU Council decision. These decisions always end in front of the courts, so they only can list things for which they have direct evidence; presumably there is this much more - e.g. a good chance that in the background she is being funded by Russia for this work:

> Alina Lipp runs the blog “Neues aus Russland”, in which she systematically disseminates misinformation about Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine, and delegitimises the Ukrainian government, especially with a view to manipulating German public sentiment as regards support for Ukraine.

> Furthermore, she is using her role as a war correspondent with the Russian armed forces in eastern Ukraine to spread Russian war propaganda. She regularly appears in troop entertainment and propaganda shows on the Russian military TV channel Zvezda.

> Thus, Alina Lipp is engaging in and supporting actions by the Government of the Russian Federation which undermine or threaten security and stability in the Union and in a third country (Ukraine) through the use of coordinated information manipulation and interference, and through facilitating an armed conflict in a third country.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=OJ:L_202...

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by drysine » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 5:55 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #434

drysine wrote: post #409

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>Ukraine should have kept its nukes They would've quickly sold them to Iran like they did with nuclear capable missiles. [0] https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2005-05/ukraine-admits-missi...

> They would've quickly sold them to Iran like they did with nuclear capable missiles Unclear. A nuclear Kyiv would have different security incentives than a non-nuclear one.

Unclear? They are busy stealing hundreds of millions dollars[0] while having security incentive in form of ongoing war.

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/19/world/europe/ukraine-zele...

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by hearsathought » Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 6:23 PM UTC

KK7NIL wrote: post #246

general1465 wrote: post #238

The more USA is going to use this leaver, the likely they will make this leaver useless in the future. Like with China, when they overused chips leaver which stunted China for a while, but eventually gave them a way to establish their own chip industry. Now that leaver is becoming effectively useless. It will ends up same with EU.

The best China has is an internationally uncompetitive "7nm" fab and that's the best they'll have until they can manufacture EUV machines domestically. So the EUV blockade has absolutely been effective and the fact that the PRC is paying so many shills to convince westerners otherwise just shows how behind they are.

> the fact that the PRC is paying so many shills to convince westerners otherwise just shows how behind they are.

And yet, it's anti-PRC shills that are all over social media. Go figure.