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"I will care about current wrongs once thousand-year-old wrongs are righted".
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#282This will be very interesting if they can conquer the distribution issue. During the Hong Kong protests I recall several such solutions were created, but the dominant thing ended up being airdrop because it is what so many people already had locked and loaded.
Apple pulled the app after complaints from the Chinese regime. Would not surprise me if this app met a similar fate.
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In the same way then that Americans as people don't exist? Or is stealing land from the natives somehow different? To what point in time you want to travel to comfortably annihilate a country and there it's people? Before the second world war; ah where was Israel again? Many lands are taken over the history of the humans: what is your great plan if you claim Ukraine is not a country but the US and israel are?
If it was not clear enough, I was being sarcastic. I'm applying the same logic that's widely acceptable to apply at Palestine (they started it, Israel is defending themselves, Palestine doesn't even exist), and applying it to Ukraine, which is widely unacceptable to do.
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You're not going to justify colonial genocide with whataboutism. It wasn't OK when the US did it and then called natives savages as a defense for our inhuman treatment of them, and it's not OK now that Israel is doing it. No amount of whining about Hamas will change that, especially considering Netanyahu openly funded Hamas through Qatar. You act like this conflict hasn't been perpetuated for decades. It's manufactur…
I’m not interested in condemning Israel’s actions.
What radicalised me was inadvertently catching ten seconds of the killings at that Israeli dance music festival / bush doof.
Palestinians could put Hamas down in an afternoon, if they wanted to.
Whatever it takes.
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#285I imagine Gaza may currently be one of the most difficult environments to write software code in. I happily admit that I would not be able to be productive in such an environment - my environment here in Europe is really quite sheltered (guess this also depends on where one lives; areas close to Russia may not feel as comfortable as in central Europe or Western Europe). The only distraction I have here is youtube mus…
I taught myself to write an original software application in JavaScript while living in Afghanistan about 16 years ago.
I suspect Gaza is maybe 10x, or much more, challenging environment. I often didn’t have access to internet, but in Gaza I suspect electricity is universally hard to find. I was only out of pocket on electricity while waiting for flights, which is a lot more time than you would imagine. I also had reliable access to food and water even when my travel and living situation was completely mysterious.
Based on my own experiences danger is far less distracting than hunger and fatigue. You can generally get through danger and still be interested in learning, but it’s hard to learn if your brain doesn’t have the rest and resources it needs.
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the same way then that Americans as people don't exist? Or is stealing land from the natives somehow different? To what point in time you want to travel to comfortably annihilate a country and there it's people? Before the second world war; ah where was Israel again? Many lands are taken over the history of the humans: what is your great plan if you claim Ukraine is not a country but the US and israel are?
If it was not clear enough, I was being sarcastic. I'm applying the same logic that's widely acceptable to apply at Palestine (they started it, Israel is defending themselves, Palestine doesn't even exist), and applying it to Ukraine, which is widely unacceptable to do.
Ah, it was not clear to me :) Then I like it. Thanks for explaining; I was wondering what was going on!
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Irrational? That's like saying the Allies response to the Nazi's was irrational. Come to think of it, maybe that's the solution. After WW2 the Allies "DeNazified" Germany by dismantling Nazi organizations, removing Nazis from public life, and trying prominent war criminals. It also included symbolic actions like changing street names, as well as re-educating the German population in democratic values. I'm keenly awar…
I live in Germany and I can tell you German denazification was a complete failure. Yes they're not run by a party calling itself NSDAP. Yes there haven't been concentration camps. Yes everyone knows you have to protect Jews. But the underlying feelings are still there - they're just directed towards different groups. Germany is inching closer to doing it again with Muslims.
Interesting perspective. However (and give me some rope here), I'd still argue that, somehow, Germany emerged from WW2, eventually, as a relatively sane and democratic country compared to where it had been during and prior to the war. So it wasn't a complete failure.
All countries, as we're sadly finding out now, have a nasty undercurrent. Particularly now, but nothing compared to Nazi Germany in terms of its ideological underpinnings.
However, the indiscriminate hatred, dehumanisation, and, yes, genocide on display from Israel echoes what I've studied in Hitlers Germany.
And so, again, I'll argue Israel needs a similar program of DeNazification. I don't know how you get there, because they haven't been "defeated" and are in fact being supported. But that is what is needed in Israel.
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Irrational? That's like saying the Allies response to the Nazi's was irrational. Come to think of it, maybe that's the solution. After WW2 the Allies "DeNazified" Germany by dismantling Nazi organizations, removing Nazis from public life, and trying prominent war criminals. It also included symbolic actions like changing street names, as well as re-educating the German population in democratic values. I'm keenly awar…
Hamas's explicit goal is to destroy Israel.
And? ... do you expect me to take that as justification for what has gone on?
/Rhetorical.
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If it was not clear enough, I was being sarcastic. I'm applying the same logic that's widely acceptable to apply at Palestine (they started it, Israel is defending themselves, Palestine doesn't even exist), and applying it to Ukraine, which is widely unacceptable to do.
Ah, it was not clear to me :) Then I like it. Thanks for explaining; I was wondering what was going on!
Text is a difficult medium ahahaha