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Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is "View source" listed here as if it's some outdated feature of the past?

Probably an AI wrote large parts of this press release.

That’s no excuse. Someone shipped it (and ostensibly read it).

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

#82
post #11

I’m not familiar with Deepnote, but I have quite a lot of experience with Jupyter, and if someone were to ask me if there are more modern alternatives I would immediately point them to marimo ( https://marimo.io/ ). For me marimo is already a successor to Jupyter, it has replaced it entirely for me.

I actually mostly use Jupyter for non-Python code (e.g. Julia or Ruby). How is Marimo's support for other languages?

Non-existent AFAICT, files saved as ‘.py’. I use Jupyter primarily with F#, the multi-language support is huge.

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

#84
post #42

I don't know much about this, but I understand Project Jupyter is Nonprofit. If I go to "jupyter.org" I see a tab "Community" and another "Governance". If I go to "deepnote.com" I see "Customers" and "Pricing". Why would people want a standard to be controlled by a private company? I don't think the "Open-Sourcing" of it says enough. How does licensing work with formats or standards?

All standards are ultimately controlled by private companies. Even non-profits require funding.

Open source always depended on a viable business model (of one or many companies) that can sustain not just the release, but also an ongoing maintenance of the standard.

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

#85
post #25

I’m not familiar with Deepnote, but I have quite a lot of experience with Jupyter, and if someone were to ask me if there are more modern alternatives I would immediately point them to marimo ( https://marimo.io/ ). For me marimo is already a successor to Jupyter, it has replaced it entirely for me.

How hard would it be to add creatine collaboration to Marimo?

Pretty easy. Just a scoop of whey.

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

#87
post #79

> Teams need notebooks that are reactive, collaborative, and AI‑ready reactive: this matters, but all the alternatives have it collaborative: this matters very little in the Figma / Google Docs sense of collaborative in practice. It's very rare you want two people working on the same notebook at the same time. What you really want is git style version control. AI‑ready: you want something as close to plain python (wh…

I'd argue the opposite. There is plenty of AI extensions, but the experience matters. The depth of integration matters. When you execute queries against production warehouses and you make decisions based on the results of AI-generated code, accuracy matters. We had our first demo of an AI agent running in 2 days, it took us another 2 years to build the infrastructure to test it, monitor it, and integrate it into the…

seems you completely missed the point. marimo does everything you're looking for in plain .py files that render as notebooks.

https://marimo.io/blog/python-not-json

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

#88
post #45

Way to undermine an interesting product launch through poorly chosen language: > Let’s be frank the single‑player notebook has felt outdated for a while now. We’re open‑sourcing its successor. Jupyter belongs in the hall of great ideas — alongside “Hello, world.” and “View Source.” If you're trying to reach out to the Python community this is not the way to do it. Completely unnecessary hostile language there! Have s…

TIL "Hello world!" has been put out to pasture.

Who needs Hello World when you can have an LLM implement an entire number guessing game for you?

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

#89

Wouldn't the successor for Jupyter be decided by adoption? For a single team to self declare this seems a bit crass, no?

I would recommend not making any career pivots to sales or marketing.

Marketing is audience-dependent.

If you are marketing to VCs then disparaging competitors and making grandiose claims can be effective.

But when marketing to developers then constructive criticism and humility may be more effective.

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