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Flemish? I remember watching a TV show in Flemish ( Hotel Beau Séjour [0]), so it's prevalent enough to invest that kind of money into. What about Basque? Is that too controversial? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Beau_Séjour
Basque is not controversial, but spoken just by very little people.
EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages
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> When you talk to most EU business owners, even in tech, the limiting factor isn't regulations. This being the #1 reason is such a tired trope. Okay, what is the limiting factor? Because when I talk to EU business owners (admittedly, very few) - they point to lack of big EU capital markets, which is directly downstream of the policy environment. And when I talk to top EU human capital, they all point to the lack of…
> I think it is a complete misreading to point to protectionism as the reason for Chinese success, but having a big unified domestic market for consumers along with massive saving rates and capital controls probably does help. Capital controls are protectionist measures, but anyway, no. > Okay, what is the limiting factor? Let's look at which countries have a significant local software industry compared to population…
Seems like you actually believe this. I think our starting points on reality are different enough that we are not going to have a productive conversation, I wish you and other Europeans the best of luck in your protectionism-led growth strategy. Make sure to not discuss it with any pesky macroeconomists who might lead you astray. take care
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dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45733832 which sank to the bottom thanks to HN's invisible hand Oh wait, one's not supposed to notice
It's more like the default is to be ranked near the bottom unless your comment gets traction during the brief window of time it is ranked first for being new. Seeing your comments go splat after that window expires is not some nefarious conspiracy..
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> What's REALLY much more important though if you want to be a part of the AI race and I've posted for years here with @euaccofficial is to make Europe a really extremely attractive place to start and run an AI business. Remove regulatory obstructions and give tax discounts for startups. Let them build a business first that can compete worldwide and once they make enough money (let's say $100M/y), then slowly start a…
It’s probably the people who didn’t start a business in the EU that you want to talk to. Like, I’m European, but I started my company in the US because everything is so much easier here.
Which part is easier? That you have 50 different states with slightly varying laws to consider (e.g. Californian Data protection)? That you have a byzantine system of "benefits" to choose and manage?
And compared to where? Germany or Estonia or Sweden or Spain? The complexities will vary wildly depending on the country (kind of like in the US, where lots of companies pick the state to base themselves in based on the combination of favourable laws and precedents and taxes).
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Yeah no, it's just not how it works. They're trying to support fundamental research and they have limited resources to accomplish them. Some random dude who wants to build a company that generates pretty AI pictures is just not the target audience, and he rightly got rejected. And frankly, the dream scenario that Pieter describes where he somehow would qualify for these resources also wouldn't help kickstart the tech…
Does government offering matched funding to investors actually help startups who are struggling to find (any) funding? If a startup can't find (any) funding, matching is irrelevant.
> Do you think US startups get free compute from the government? They don't even get subsidies most of the time. What they get is better funding because there's more capital available, and helping investors with that is exactly how you solve that.
Umm. I'm not really convinced that the political elites in Europe understand how to do any of this stuff well.
See also: https://www.eib.org/en/publications/online/all/the-scale-up-...
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They could get Austria to do it, as it presumably has a spare slot.
This raises an interesting question. Is there only one dialect of German in the LLM? My understanding is that the German German and Austrian German dialects are significantly different.
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#158Here's the models: https://huggingface.co/utter-project/models I used the 9B Instruct version, from the small models, it was the one with the best Latvian knowledge out there, bar none. GPT-OSS 20B and Qwen3 30B A3B and similar ones weren't even close. That said, the model itself was a little bit dumb and not something you'd really use for programming/autocomplete or tool calling or anything like that, which also pre…
If I ask something in Lithuanian, EuroLLM will reply in Latvian lol. I have to specifically tell something like this: “do you known Lithuanian language”, then it starts replying in Lithuanian
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I'm in Europe and can go into my local supermarkets on Saturday and Sunday from 0900 to 2100. I can send a SEPA wire transfer on the weekend and the recipient gets it within seconds. My nearest big shopping mall (hundreds of shops) is open until 23:00 on weekends. My dentist is open on Saturdays. So yeah it works on weekends...
This kind of comment is just trolling, no added value.
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#160I was thinking the same, why are so many superior models coming from only countries like US and China. And why are European countries not in the list other than France with Mistral. Why are so few companies in India, Japan, South Korea even close to a promising new model like what Chinese companies did ?
"Why" is a fair question but are you surprised? Europe is consistently behind in tech. Europe has about 1.3 times the population of the USA and about 75% of the GDP yet EU tech output is a very small percentage of US tech output. We are not talking about 70, 50, 30, or even 20%. It's a drop in the bucket. >The seven largest U.S. tech companies, Alphabet (Google), Amazon, Apple, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia, and Tesla, are…
I only use open source LLMs for writing (Qwen 32b from Groq) and open source editor of course, Emacs.
If some people can write better using commercial LLMs (and commercial editors), by all means, but they put themselves at a disadvantage.
Next step for me, is to use something open source for translation, I use Claude for the moment, and open source for programming, I use GPT curently. In less than a year I will find a satisfying solution to both of these problems. I haven't looked deep enough.