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Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

pengaru wrote: post #39
citizenkeen wrote: post #3

Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update.

> Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update. In an era of software-defined vehicles, the difference is one of convenience, not impact/consequence. Not really worth pointing out, unless you're a service department telling owners how to plan their week.

The thing is, to most people, "recall" is a strong word that carries major implications.

Yeah, sure, you might be smart enough to understand that the word has a legal definition, and sometimes a recall is an absolute nothingburger. For example, Tesla once had to do a recall because some warning icons on the screen were legally deemed to be a couple pixels too small. Yet, when news outlets announce "Tesla recalls every Model 3 ever made", it's TECHNICALLY true, but will be highly misleading to the general population who now thinks every Model 3 has to be returned.

EDIT: Also, FWIW, even when a recall DOES require a physical change of the car, Tesla's mobile service can often come to you to do it. You don't need to take it to a service center.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by napierzaza »

josephcsible wrote: post #92

Other automakers have recalls all the time too. Why is it that every single Tesla recall becomes national news, but virtually no recalls by other automakers ever do? (I can only think of two exceptions in recent history: Takata airbags and Chevy Bolt batteries.)

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Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by gruez »

reaperducer wrote: post #96
josephcsible wrote: post #92

Other automakers have recalls all the time too. Why is it that every single Tesla recall becomes national news, but virtually no recalls by other automakers ever do? (I can only think of two exceptions in recent history: Takata airbags and Chevy Bolt batteries.)

Why is it that every single Tesla recall becomes national news, but virtually no recalls by other automakers ever do? (I can only think of two exceptions in recent history: Takata airbags and Chevy Bolt batteries.) Maybe you don't read enough legitimate/mainstream media? I see them all the time. Just yesterday: Ford, Dodge, Nissan among over 1.1 million vehicles recalled - https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/recalls/…

>Just yesterday: Ford, Dodge, Nissan among over 1.1 million vehicles recalled - https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/recalls/2025/10/20/check...

but how notable was it? In other words was it on the front page either online or in print? The nature of publishing nowadays is that virtually unlimited amounts of articles can be published, but unless you're seeking them out you're not going to stumble upon them like this post.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by Reason077 »

Rover222 wrote: post #82
pengaru wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update. In an era of software-defined vehicles, the difference is one of convenience, not impact/consequence. Not really worth pointing out, unless you're a service department telling owners how to plan their week.

That’s nonsensical, IMO. Software updates should not be considered recalls at all. Unless it’s a critical safety issue that makes the vehicle unusable.

That's exactly what recalls are: important safety issues that need to be fixed, regardless of whether the fix involves hardware or software.

Past Tesla recalls addressed by OTA updates include fixes for braking, steering, headlights, tire pressure monitoring, collision avoidance, etc...

https://www.cars.com/research/tesla/recalls/

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by margalabargala »

reaperducer wrote: post #100
Meegul wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The battery pack contactor is one of the only, if not actually the only, moving pieces in a battery pack. A solenoid connects or disconnects the battery pack from the rest of the car's electronics. In this case, it seems to fail in the open state, meaning the battery was not able to power the car. Either there was simply a bad production batch of these particular solenoids or a change in supplier for this part. Model…

one of the only, if not actually the only, Pet peeve: The phrase is "one of the few," not "one of the only." If something is "only," it can't be "one of" something.

You're not correct. A tertiary definition of "only" is "few". "One of the only" for a member of a small set if perfectly correct in English.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/only

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by op00to »

josephcsible wrote: post #92

Other automakers have recalls all the time too. Why is it that every single Tesla recall becomes national news, but virtually no recalls by other automakers ever do? (I can only think of two exceptions in recent history: Takata airbags and Chevy Bolt batteries.)

What about the Hyundai/Kia antitheft recalls? Those dominated the news for /years/.

You’re not actually asking about media fairness. You’re defending Elon Musk under the usual “everyone’s unfair to Elon” routine. Now think about the difference in public visibility between the Ford CEO and the Tesla CEO. Which one’s name alone drives more clicks and engagement?

Musk injects himself into the news constantly. When you build your brand on publicity, you also get the scrutiny that comes with it. No need to play at the victim narrative.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

josephcsible wrote: post #92

Other automakers have recalls all the time too. Why is it that every single Tesla recall becomes national news, but virtually no recalls by other automakers ever do? (I can only think of two exceptions in recent history: Takata airbags and Chevy Bolt batteries.)

y'all ever notice that the internet seems to have introduced entire new classes of fallacy, or at least that the structure of debating online tends to surface fallacies that aren't as common in real life? This is one that I call the redditor fallacy and at its base it's the presumption that if one particular group of people isn't currently talking about something in one particular thread that no one anywhere is talking about it and it's a subtype of whataboutism. The truth is that if I google the phrase "automobile recall" I don't see tesla in the first three pages of results but I do see Ford, GM, Nissan, Dodge and Volkswagen.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by Marsymars »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #56
guywithahat wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only on the cybertruck, the Y and 3 are still mostly 12v

I wonder why all electric cars aren’t designed from the start to use 48v.

I don't think it would have to be only electric cars, if you're building a hybrid where the 12V battery is kept charged by the high voltage battery, you've got basically the same situation.

Availability of accessories seems like it would be inconvenient for any early adopters, e.g. you can readily get USB chargers, portable generators, coolers, tire inflators, battery boosters, etc. that run off 12V... if you get a 48V vehicle today, you'd either need a 110V->12V adapter to run accessories, or you'd be limited to 48V RV accessories.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by I_dream_of_Geni »

gruez wrote: post #123
reaperducer wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it that every single Tesla recall becomes national news, but virtually no recalls by other automakers ever do? (I can only think of two exceptions in recent history: Takata airbags and Chevy Bolt batteries.) Maybe you don't read enough legitimate/mainstream media? I see them all the time. Just yesterday: Ford, Dodge, Nissan among over 1.1 million vehicles recalled - https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/recalls/…

>Just yesterday: Ford, Dodge, Nissan among over 1.1 million vehicles recalled - https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/recalls/2025/10/20/check ... but how notable was it? In other words was it on the front page either online or in print? The nature of publishing nowadays is that virtually unlimited amounts of articles can be published, but unless you're seeking them out you're not going to stumble upon them like this p…

They were obviously notable enough....

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Post by I_dream_of_Geni »

proee wrote: post #120
aranw wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've owned three Audis over the last decade with no recalls Tesla deliberately pushes boundaries and breaks from tradition. That's admirable, but traditional manufacturers have decades of engineering knowledge behind their approaches for good reasons. Push the envelope enough and you'll have more misses and in Tesla's case more recalls

You are making things up out of thin air. These are recalls from JAN 2024- MAR 2025 Ford Motor Company, 94 (7%) Chrysler (FCA US, LLC), 78 (6%) Forest River, Inc., 67 (5%) General Motors, LLC, 41 (3%) BMW of North America, LLC, 39 (3%) Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC, 33 (3%) Hyundai Motor America, 28 (2%) Jaguar Land Rover North America, LLC, 26 (2%) Volkswagen Group of America, Inc., 25 (2%) Daimler Trucks North America, LL…

You beat me to it... lol
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