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Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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> Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update. In an era of software-defined vehicles, the difference is one of convenience, not impact/consequence. Not really worth pointing out, unless you're a service department telling owners how to plan their week.

To the contrary, the fact that this is a physical recall is perhaps the most interesting and noteworthy thing about it.

Are you hodling TSLA and concerned about the costs? I could see that being interesting...

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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In a lot of EVs, when the car is "on" there is a DC/DC converter powering the 12V system from the HV battery. So if the car was "on" and experienced a loss of the 12V battery it could continue operating for some period of time.

I think the implication is that people could be driving with a dead 12V as if nothing is wrong. Then when they experience the HV failure in the recall, they would have no power whatsoever for safety systems.

Yes, this drives a requirement for latent fault detection of LV battery faults. In general when a safety function is decomposed to provide statistical safety, there is a requirement to time-bound a single failure, since without that the decomposition doesn’t buy you anything. Latent fault detection is the standard option for time bounding for automotive — for aviation, you have a second escape hatch that issues that are reliably found during annual / 100 hour inspection and can be safely missed for that long can be caught by inspection instead.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Is this even a fair comparison when Ford and Chrysler offer a lot more models than Tesla does?

Fords recall numbers have skyrocketed in recent years. So Fords real comparison to its previous self, 2015 they had 68. Why isn’t Fords roughly doubling of recalls news?

>Why isn’t Fords roughly doubling of recalls news?

Oh, I don't know, maybe because Tesla is bigger than the rest of the entire industry combined?

Besides, safety recalls are what matters. I get lots of small qualtiy-related recalls that are so minor I don't even bother getting them done. Meanwhile, Tesla does what it can to avoid quality recalls, because for a while it was a marketing blurb for them.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Didn‘t they switch to 48V?

Only on the cybertruck, the Y and 3 are still mostly 12v

I wonder why all electric cars aren’t designed from the start to use 48v.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Only on the cybertruck, the Y and 3 are still mostly 12v

I wonder why all electric cars aren’t designed from the start to use 48v.

Component availability mostly, the entire automotive world is designed for 12v systems.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update.

> Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update. In an era of software-defined vehicles, the difference is one of convenience, not impact/consequence. Not really worth pointing out, unless you're a service department telling owners how to plan their week.

> software-defined vehicles

I threw up in my mouth a little upon reading this phrase. Dark times.

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