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Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by SiempreViernes » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:37 AM UTC

jimbob45 wrote: post #24

mytailorisrich wrote: post #13

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He should not be in jail now. His case is going to appeal but the court decided to still jail him now "provisionally" (exécution provisoire), which sounds like a political play. Coincidentally, the same is happening to Le Pen with respect to the decision to ban her from elections... As for "delaying" the case, this is just the French court system for you. Everything takes years and years.

As for "delaying" the case, this is just the French court system for you. Everything takes years and years. Is there a country for which that doesn't hold true?

In Russia some cases can be over surprisingly quickly ;)

Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by Tepix » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:38 AM UTC

NaomiLehman wrote: post #166

Tepix wrote: post #138

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> Law doesn't seek to punish but to rehabilitate. That's unfortunately not universally true. This is most obvious when considering the death penalty. Norway exemplifies a rehabilitative justice model and it is effective, evidenced by low recidivism rates.

Very few first-world countries have death penalties?

Very few countries in general.

Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by SiempreViernes » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:41 AM UTC

_ache_ wrote: post #91

csomar wrote: post #67

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More like bombed Gaddafi and guaranteed his downfall than bombed "Libya". It is probably a bit more complicated than that, though. The U.S./NATO were also involved and there is a lot of money there. He probably thought he could get away with it. But make no mistake this is a political play and everyone involved is as dirty as the Paris Seine.

Hey! The Seine isn't dirty as this guy. Maybe the Seine was heavily covered as dirty by the media but remember that you shouldn't swim in the San Francisco bay either. Wait for the next JO to hear about water quality problem with the LA beach area under rain.

Yeah, only a few contestants in the Olympics got sick after the triathlon! ;)

Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by tobylane » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:41 AM UTC

blitzar wrote: post #100

anjel wrote: post #90

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I wonder what frech jail food is like.

The wine pairings are particularly unimpressive.

They offered a rather indifferent Rausan-Segla.

Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by type0 » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:41 AM UTC

dotancohen wrote: post #158

Razengan wrote: post #135

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They're cold enough there

I spent a week in a hostel in Norway (Trumso). The room has a refrigerator, but no freezer. The food to be kept frozen was put on the shelf hanging outside the window.

Doesn't work if it's not winter. Also you should keep your food in a fabric bag that hungry magpies and seagulls can't open.

Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by sebstefan » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:56 AM UTC

msh wrote: post #139

sebstefan wrote: post #132

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The cell is the same but he is alone in it, most convicts have a cellmate

Not the ones in solitary confinement like him I assume?

His SHU cell has everything the rest of the cells have ; a TV for €14/month, a hot plate, a landline, a shower, a fridge, and on a fixed schedule access to the library and the gym

https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-faits-divers/nicolas-sarkozy-...

Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by sillyfluke » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 12:14 PM UTC

byroot wrote: post #77

tasuki wrote: post #58

> Sarkozy said he would take two books with him into prison, a life of Jesus by Jean-Christian Petitfils and the Count of Monte Cristo The Count of Monte Cristo is a good choice.

It has nothing to do with literature. It’s just a not so subtle way to claim he’s innocent and that he’ll get his revenge.

Amusingly, it's also inspired by the life of the writer's mixed race black father, who in the 1700s became the highest ranking black general in the west not to be surpassed until the American generals in the 1990s and supposedly attracted the jealousy of Napolean (See "The Black Count").

So there's something there for everyone I guess.

Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by tsoukase » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 12:22 PM UTC

A former Prime Minister of a first world country in jail is insane. He must have made a crime without the help of others because in political scandals usually a whole gang of public people is liable. Then you have to convict the monkey with the bananas and the whole tree.

If we follow the French justice, in my country (Greece) about 10% of people including almost all the politicians of the last decades should be in jail.

Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 12:40 PM UTC

tsoukase wrote: post #178

A former Prime Minister of a first world country in jail is insane. He must have made a crime without the help of others because in political scandals usually a whole gang of public people is liable. Then you have to convict the monkey with the bananas and the whole tree. If we follow the French justice, in my country (Greece) about 10% of people including almost all the politicians of the last decades should be in j…

Well the crime was about using syria's then dictator muhammar kadafi's blood money for his first presidential campaign. So there is a very strong incentive to keep this as private as possible. And in effect he's not the only one to be trialed and judged.

Re: French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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Post by pif » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 12:43 PM UTC

Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe wrote: post #179

tsoukase wrote: post #178

A former Prime Minister of a first world country in jail is insane. He must have made a crime without the help of others because in political scandals usually a whole gang of public people is liable. Then you have to convict the monkey with the bananas and the whole tree. If we follow the French justice, in my country (Greece) about 10% of people including almost all the politicians of the last decades should be in j…

Well the crime was about using syria's then dictator muhammar kadafi's blood money for his first presidential campaign. So there is a very strong incentive to keep this as private as possible. And in effect he's not the only one to be trialed and judged.

s/Syria/Libya/