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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by threetonesun »

hypeatei wrote: post #84
ncr100 wrote: post #52

Could this be an Extension, for Chrome / Firefox / Edge / and others ? Are these extension-fodder: - "new tab" shows custom UI with LLM prompt - Reads contents of user's web page in Chat UI, shown alongside web page - new UI gizmo at Text-selection, showing ChatGPT flower icon, with context features available for selected text - maintains "agent personality / context" (IDK the term) across tabs

That's what I thought: is an extension really that restrictive to where you need your own fork of a browser engine? It appears to me like they're posturing to investors on the AI hype train. Publishing an extension isn't as sexy or "grand" as shipping a browser.

Putting your brand name on the primary application users interact with on a computer is probably a few billion times more valuable than an extension in a thing under someone else's brand.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by px43 »

specproc wrote: post #70
behnamoh wrote: post #25

Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1]. - GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...) - GPTs?! - Schedules? - Operator? - The original "codex" model? [0]: I know, the diff is that…

I don't think they've done much that's that impressive since the launch. Cancelled my sub ages ago for other offerings. Zero moat with crazy amounts of debt and financial engineering. What could possibly go wrong?

What's with the assumption that everything needs to be a "moat"? Seems much more important/interesting to wire up society with cohesive tooling according to Metcalfe's law, rather than building stuff designed to separate and segment knowledge.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by accrual »

ncr100 wrote: post #135
nextworddev wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already have Gemini for chrome which no one uses.

There's a dedicated button for it, now .. I speculate its usage will take up soon. - Chrome 141.0.7390.108 macOS

Yes, I don't use Chrome, but had to open it the other day and noticed an "AI Mode" button in the URL bar. No thank you.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by bigyabai »

827a wrote: post #116
behnamoh wrote: post #25

Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1]. - GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...) - GPTs?! - Schedules? - Operator? - The original "codex" model? [0]: I know, the diff is that…

I think its funny how its a Chromium-based browser, and the live demo involved automating Gmail and Google Sheets. Google literally runs the world; we're just playing on their playground.

It's not that weird. Both of those examples are probably some of the most common automations people will be using.

Gmail and Google Sheets has not cannibalized the existence of alternate email providers or spreadsheet programs, we can relax a bit on those fronts. AdSense, on the other hand...

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by oldpersonintx2 »

echelon wrote: post #42
mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

If the DeepSeek approach to training hyperscaler models "cheaply" after all the hype wears down works, we just need to follow in their footsteps and build open source alternatives to everything. Frontier models take a lot of money and experimentation. But then people figure out how to train them and knowledge of those models and approaches leaks. Furthermore, we can make informed guesses. But best of all, we can exfi…

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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by mentalgear »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #73
mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

Websites are terrible from a security, usability, accessibility, privacy, and mental health perspective. These tools could be used to fix all of those things. Instead they're just being used to do the same old junk, but like... faster. I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed. Yes, I even wa…

I share many of your ideas, and I think the best solution would be:

1. a pure data API web (like the original semantic-web idea)

2. open-source browsers which can query for information using on-device LLMs and display it to the user in any UI way they want.

I think 1. will happen, since all search engines will use AI results, with no click through to the original data-owner (website). So there is no more financial incentive to keep a UI website. The question is if the "data API web" will be decentralised or under the control of a few big players that already mined the web.

2. will hopefully happen if on-device models become more capable, the question is by then whether most people are already defaulted to AI browsers from big tech (since they have the money to burn-cash using cloud LLM services to capture market share before on-device LLMs are good enough). The only way to prevent this is user-education and mistrust verus Big Tech, which is what already befell Microsoft's Recall (besides a terrible security architecure).

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by TranquilMarmot »

AustinDev wrote: post #66

Just to be meta, I downloaded the browser and added this thread as context and asked for some insightful comments I could leave (It doesn't seem to understand block-quoting format for this site): Analytical / Insightful (well-received on HN) > The interesting thing here isn’t that OpenAI made “a browser,” it’s that they’ve collapsed the boundary between the page and the assistant. Plugins and “GPTs” tried to bolt API…

> The real competition now isn’t about tabs or engines—it’s about how much of our thinking we’re willing to outsource

Man, I am SO tired of seeing "it's not just X—it's Y" everywhere these days

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by drdaeman »

xena wrote: post #41

I really wish they'd put the fact that the user is using ChatGPT Atlas in the User-Agent string or Sec-Ch-Ua header so that administrators can filter this browser accordingly.

As someone who remembers the Browser Wars… Fuck this idea, in strongest possible terms.

Discrimination on personal decisions such as user agent software choice is antithetical to user freedoms, open standards and net/protocol neutrality.

If something has undesirable behaviors - detect those and filter on what’s actually happening, not how something is branded. It always should be “we don’t tolerate this behavior”, never “we don’t serve your kind here”.

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