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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by GenerWork »

jryio wrote: post #15

If you think this is useful... remember technology like this would make totalitarian leaders foam at the mouth. If you thought that ads are creepy, Atlas is a root level keylogger service. Why would you want an AI company scraping and recording all of your browser interactions. Yes Google already does this via Chrome. It's one thing to build a predictive model on your demographic, spending, location and income inform…

>It's one thing to build a predictive model on your demographic, spending and location and income information in order to target and sell you advertisements, and quite another thing to build a model of your cognition itself by recording you

If Atlas is successful, there's no reason why Google won't try to mimic it. They already have Chrome and Gemini, all they'd have to do is put Gemini directly into Chrome, dedicate some TPUs to Gemini instances that are tied to Chrome, and boom, it's Atlas.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by rakejake »

I guess Atlas is a good name for a web browser. But I'm surprised their first release is Mac only. Does it indicate they are targeting some kind of power user (programmers, creatives etc) or is it just the first platform they could ship by the deadline?

Will they be able to take any significant marketshare from Chrome? I suppose only time will tell but it will be a pretty hard slog especially since Chrome is pretty much synonymous with "browser" in most of the world. Still, I don't think anyone at Google is breathing easy.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by hypeatei »

ncr100 wrote: post #52

Could this be an Extension, for Chrome / Firefox / Edge / and others ? Are these extension-fodder: - "new tab" shows custom UI with LLM prompt - Reads contents of user's web page in Chat UI, shown alongside web page - new UI gizmo at Text-selection, showing ChatGPT flower icon, with context features available for selected text - maintains "agent personality / context" (IDK the term) across tabs

That's what I thought: is an extension really that restrictive to where you need your own fork of a browser engine?

It appears to me like they're posturing to investors on the AI hype train. Publishing an extension isn't as sexy or "grand" as shipping a browser.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by baby »

behnamoh wrote: post #25

Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1]. - GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...) - GPTs?! - Schedules? - Operator? - The original "codex" model? [0]: I know, the diff is that…

They're doing a lot of cool experiments and don't mind discarding them when they feel like LLMs are moving in a different direction. I don't know why people are complaining here. Every time I read AI posts here there's like an army of commentators that seem to have little AI usage.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by 999900000999 »

behnamoh wrote: post #25

Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1]. - GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...) - GPTs?! - Schedules? - Operator? - The original "codex" model? [0]: I know, the diff is that…

They have too much money and need to do something with it.

A lot of this is about building an ecosystem. Just a good LLM won't be enough forever.

But if you have a giant network of products that *only work with your other products, you might become the next Salesforce.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by zozbot234 »

behnamoh wrote: post #25

Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1]. - GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...) - GPTs?! - Schedules? - Operator? - The original "codex" model? [0]: I know, the diff is that…

> They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch

Agreed. They really should have named this product Atlas *shrug* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by mapontosevenths »

bogwog wrote: post #35
mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

What value? I haven't used them myself, but from reviews I've seen on Youtube they appear to be flaky and not all that useful. It reminds me of when voice assistants like Siri came out, and it turned out that the only thing they were good for was setting timers, controlling music playback, and gimmicky stuff like that.

Try it yourself and ignore the hype. For certain things it can be really useful, just keep in mind that it's early days.

I recently used Comet to find out of print movies that were never released on DVD/Bluray, then find them on ebay, then find the best value, then provide me with a list to order. It felt like magic watching it work, and saved me many hours of either doing it myself or scripting it.

I did have to repeatedly break it into ever smaller tasks to get everything to fit within the context windows, but still... it might have been janky but it was janky magic.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by AlecSchueler »

AustinDev wrote: post #66

Just to be meta, I downloaded the browser and added this thread as context and asked for some insightful comments I could leave (It doesn't seem to understand block-quoting format for this site): Analytical / Insightful (well-received on HN) > The interesting thing here isn’t that OpenAI made “a browser,” it’s that they’ve collapsed the boundary between the page and the assistant. Plugins and “GPTs” tried to bolt API…

> Everyone’s asking “is it Chromium,”

This "sounds good" but no one is asking that other than the one sub-thread asking whether it's built on top of Chrome, which is a different question. It seems to give the appearance of insightful comments but it's still just slop.

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