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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#61

Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1]. - GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...) - GPTs?! - Schedules? - Operator? - The original "codex" model? [0]: I know, the diff is that…

How else would you build new products?

building and shipping are not the same.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#62
AI-powered browsers are an interesting step beyond "ChatGPT in a tab". Potentially as disruptive as Chrome was in 2008.

However there's a tension between convenience and control. If one company mediates all of your browsing, search and transactions, it becomes both a powerful assistant and a single point of failure. Atlas will need to demonstrate that it can respect user privacy and provide robust on-device or open-source options if it's going to convince people it's more than just a new walled garden.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#63

I haven't used LLM chrome plugins because I couldn't trust that they weren't collecting more information about my browsing than I'd like. The same concern exists for this, though now I'm just confident it's a giant software company with access to my data rather than some shady plugin developer. I'm faced with asking myself if that's actually better...

There's a great value proposition for a company like Private Internet Access or NordVPN to create an AI browser extension or full-on browser. Anonymize requests and provide various LLM models. Rely on your reputation as a privacy focused corp to pull people away from these OpenAI/Perplexity offerings.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#64
post #43

Another cohort of startups blown out of the water. "But where's the moat, but where's the moat", cries the armchair engineer with a PhD in React. Meanwhile OpenAI goes brr ...

if I was Google I'd close up Chromium at this point and that would kill these AI company browsers instantly

Good luck with that.

https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/LICENS...

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#65

Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1]. - GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...) - GPTs?! - Schedules? - Operator? - The original "codex" model? [0]: I know, the diff is that…

How else would you build new products?

You're supposed to invest 10% ~ 20% of your resources into life support for dead-end products for eternity

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#66
Just to be meta, I downloaded the browser and added this thread as context and asked for some insightful comments I could leave (It doesn't seem to understand block-quoting format for this site):

Analytical / Insightful (well-received on HN)

> The interesting thing here isn’t that OpenAI made “a browser,” it’s that they’ve collapsed the boundary between the page and the assistant. Plugins and “GPTs” tried to bolt APIs onto chat; Atlas inverts that—chat is now the substrate for all interaction. > > It’s not hard to imagine a future where the web becomes more of an agent runtime than a hypertext medium. The real question is whether users will trust the runtime owner enough to live inside it.

Technical / Developer-oriented

> Everyone’s asking “is it Chromium,” but that’s missing the deeper move. Atlas is effectively an agentic runtime with privileged access to DOM and user context. The engine matters less than the control plane—who gets to mediate input/output between human, model, and site. > > That layer, not rendering, is the new “browser wars.”

Cautiously critical / philosophical

> Atlas looks less like a new browser and more like a new operating system for cognition. It’s powerful, but the trade-off is subtle: every convenience deepens the model’s visibility into what we do, not just what we search. The real competition now isn’t about tabs or engines—it’s about how much of our thinking we’re willing to outsource.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#67

How does this page not immediately address what I assume is everyone's first question? Is this browser built on Chromium, or is it a completely fresh creation? I have to assume that because they AREN'T highlighting it that it IS built on Chromium.

User agent string says it's Chrome 141.0.0.0

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#68

Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1]. - GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...) - GPTs?! - Schedules? - Operator? - The original "codex" model? [0]: I know, the diff is that…

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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#69
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure even if these browser automation brings much value other than financial analysts, at least for the moment

I was sceptical as well before trying it out, but it is unfortunately very practical to ask the AI sidebar about an information-dense website or even github codebase (just as dev examples). There were of course many browser extensions that did this beforehand (and even better, by hyper-linking the exact text passage of answer segments), but the main differentiator is that most people don't use them/know about them, a…

Care to share some of those extensions? I feel like we're on the second/third wave of llm enhanced tools, and there's plenty of good stuff that got passed over from earlier waves of products/tool attempts.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

#70

Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1]. - GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...) - GPTs?! - Schedules? - Operator? - The original "codex" model? [0]: I know, the diff is that…

I don't think they've done much that's that impressive since the launch. Cancelled my sub ages ago for other offerings.

Zero moat with crazy amounts of debt and financial engineering. What could possibly go wrong?

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