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Almost all major streaming services will refuse to work on unapproved devices.
You don't "streaming services" when you can open a Web browser and stream from the high seas, or download NewPipe from F-Droid, or download Jellyfin and stream local content.
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My personal take is that most Android devices no longer get updates pretty soon after the release (where pretty soon means 2-3 years). Google promises 7 years of support for their newer devices, but most vendors don't. LineageOS is, besides the fact hat it is more open for non google stuff, providing Android Updates for older devices. While this does not necessarily provide better security (rooted devices are often n…
Google promises 7 years of support for their newer devices, but most vendors don't. Unless you have a Pixel 6 and your security update goes missing? (Didn't get the July security update and the October update is still missing? https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1o2bhur/where_... )
And I'm a happy graphene OS user.
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Graphene is probably better on the devices that support both (Pixels), but since hardware support is so (intentionally) limited, it kind of a moot point. Also the Graphene community is kind of obsessed with "security" and does not seem to place much emphasis on freedom/hackability.
Why the scare quotes? Graphene’s focus on security is legitimate and well founded. They are the only phone OS that is consistently safe from hacking by the likes of Cellebrite long after all other androids have fallen.
It would be "more secure" to have a per-application firewall that blocks particular apps from outbound traffic over certain networks or to certain destinations. This prevents a malicious app from consuming roaming data.
LineageOS can have that, at the owner's preference. Graphene explicitly forbids it.
It would be "more secure" to allow backing up apps and all their data. This would mitigate the damage of ransomware. Graphene, again, forbids it (following google guidelines prioritizing the wishes of an app's developer over the device owner).
There are many such examples. Lineage is philosophically owned by the person who installed it onto the phone. Graphene is owned by the Graphene devs, NOT the phone owner. Sometimes the Graphene devs purposefully choose to let software on the device restrict the valid owner of that device.
Over recent user privacy (and security) crackdowns from Google, these OS upgrades seem to be becoming more appealing. Can anyone comment on what differs Lineage from something like GrapheneOS?
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I have a Samsung Tablet and Samsung's version for said tablet is a giant mountain of crap, full of bloatware, so I installed LineageOS on it. Also my old phone and my old old phone run LineageOS because I'm just logged in to Google on my {current_phone}.
It's worth mentioning that newer Samsung phones and tablets have an eFuse that is blown when you unlock them. This permanently disables some functionality of their separate secure element (IIRC). If you are planning to run LineageOS forever, it would probably not be a big issue, but if you just want to try a third-party OS or ever resell the device, it could be an issue.
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Almost all major streaming services will refuse to work on unapproved devices.
You don't "streaming services" when you can open a Web browser and stream from the high seas, or download NewPipe from F-Droid, or download Jellyfin and stream local content.
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I would be happy if any of the big phone makers will starting adopting LineageOS or GrapheneOS as the main operating system for some of their models. Or just leave the possibility of easy unlock the phone and publish sources.
BQ tried that with Cyanogen (the precursor to Lineage) https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/bq-aquaris-x5 As did WileyFox - https://www.xda-developers.com/wileyfox-to-issue-update-to-m... They were both budget brands with niche offerings. For most people, the source of the OS is immaterial. There's very little competitive advantage to selling a forked OS, and a rather large downside in terms of support costs. I'm m…
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Even if you run LineageOS without Google, LineageOS still phones home to Google for DNS and captive portal checks. https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
That can be easily patched. If you want a full "de-google" experience, GOS is the only perfect option
I'd love to see a hybrid phone with an embedded stock android for banking, pay and government apps and a regular LinageOS or Linux OS that runs on a separate partition/hw/vm. Like "gluing" two phones together - just better ;) It would be great to run an open OS but having to carry a separate phone for banking/paying is not really a viable option.
Over recent user privacy (and security) crackdowns from Google, these OS upgrades seem to be becoming more appealing. Can anyone comment on what differs Lineage from something like GrapheneOS?
GrapheneOS is more strict about security, making it more secure but less accessible (at the moment you can only run GrapheneOS on Pixel phones).
I am happy with GrapheneOS' policy: that's exactly why I use GrapheneOS, to the point where I bought a Pixel just for GrapheneOS. Many people complain about GrapheneOS not supporting other phones. IMO it's the other way round: the other Android manufacturers do not support GrapheneOS.
If you really want GrapheneOS to lower their security in order to run on another phone, what you want is actually LineageOS.