Python 3.14 is here. How fast is it?

Post by coldtea » Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 1:35 PM UTC

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I think Julia has largely not solved it because it is clunky to use for purposes other than scientific computing. Python can't be argued to be that, it's very nice for web development as well as scientific computing, the issue is just that for non-scientific computing use cases the perf. isn't great.

If you think Python is nice for scientific computing, you must have never tried Matlab. Python is pretty clunky in comparison in its syntax for scientific computing.

Post by coldtea » Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 1:38 PM UTC

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I agree. Unless they make it like 10x faster it doesn't really change anything. It's still a language you only use if you absolutely don't care whatsoever about performance and can guarantee that you never will .

The counterargument used to be, the heavy lifting will be offloaded to python modules written in C, like numpy. Which was true, but maybe not the strongest argument. Why not use a faster language in the first place? But it's different now. There's huge classes of problems where pytorch, jax &co. are the only options that don't suck. Good luck competing with python code that uses them on performance.

Post by MomsAVoxell » Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 3:50 PM UTC

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Yes, there are Russians on the Internet. No, they’re not all trolls. No, I’m not Russian. Yes, there are American trolls on the Internet. No, America doesn’t own the Internet.

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Russia pays hundreds of people to post comments on the Internet. They have been doing this since the Jade Helm Conspiracy hysteria they caused proved their methods to be very effective. https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05/03/hysteria-over-jade-h... Hysteria over Jade Helm exercise in Texas was fueled by Russians, former CIA director says Gov. Greg Abbott's decision in 2015…

Post by UltraSane » Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 7:56 PM UTC

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I have no idea what you are trying to say. Russia pays hundreds of people to post comments on the Internet. They have been doing this since the Jade Helm Conspiracy hysteria they caused proved their methods to be very effective. https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05/03/hysteria-over-jade-h... Hysteria over Jade Helm exercise in Texas was fueled by Russians, former CIA director says Gov. Greg Abbott's decision in 2015…

The former CIA director is not, at all, someone who can be trusted. They don't present their evidence, either. Anyone in a position of authoritarian power can say anything . Until it's prosecuted in an open court of law, all bets are off. Hysteria is easily promoted by anyone in the world - even American companies are capable of it - and there is much profit to be made from Russophobia, especially in the heinous mark…

Post by janc_ » Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 10:45 PM UTC

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Russia has gotten VERY good at amplifying any cultural differences or controversies in order to break US politics (and many other countries). If you hadn't noticed it has been VERY effective.

If you haven't noticed, there is no evidence of your claims.