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Python 3.14 is here. How fast is it?

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Post by UltraSane »

MomsAVoxell wrote: post #536
UltraSane wrote: post #533

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Because I rarely see obvious Russian troll comments on hacker news

Yes, there are Russians on the Internet. No, they’re not all trolls. No, I’m not Russian. Yes, there are American trolls on the Internet. No, America doesn’t own the Internet.

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Russia pays hundreds of people to post comments on the Internet. They have been doing this since the Jade Helm Conspiracy hysteria they caused proved their methods to be very effective.

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05/03/hysteria-over-jade-h...

Hysteria over Jade Helm exercise in Texas was fueled by Russians, former CIA director says

Gov. Greg Abbott's decision in 2015 to ask the Texas State Guard to monitor a federal military exercise prompted significant criticism. A former CIA director said Wednesday that the move emboldened Russians to next target elections.

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Post by swyx »

devjab wrote: post #348
swyx wrote: post #308

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because of Django admin? any downsides/notable warnings for people considering Flask v Django? any migration guide that's helpful?

To limit the amount of languages we support I recently rewrote one of our backend services from Go (with SQLC) to Python. I hadn't worked with Python "web" for a while and started with Litestar and also their Advanced-Alchemy. Part of the reason was that their DTO's and dataclasses seemed like a good way to skip Pydantic. Anyway, once models became complext it wasn't easy to skip Pydantic and it also wasn't easy to d…

ok so the recommendation is use Django Ninja? first am hearing of it.

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Post by kibwen »

eptcyka wrote: post #387
jcranmer wrote: post #275

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30 years ago, right before Windows 95 came out, Windows was a 16-bit OS and the modern versions of Windows no longer support 16-bit programs. PCIe came out only in 2003, and I don't know that PCIe slots can support PCI. SATA is also from 2003. Even USB originally came out in 1996, and the only pre-USB connector slot I have on my computer is a PS/2 port (which honestly surprises me). For monitor connections, VGA and D…

Python programs do not care about SATA/PCI-E.

Python programs run on an interpreter, which runs on an OS, which has drivers that run on a given piece of hardware. All of the layers of the stack need to be considered and constantly maintained in order for preservation to work.

Re: Python 3.14 is here. How fast is it?

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Post by kibwen »

KK7NIL wrote: post #476
lmm wrote: post #276

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If you restrict yourself to programs that don't need an OS or hardware, you're going to be looking at a pretty small set of programs.

I don't, but I do restrict that you run it on the same OS as it was designed for.

Backwards-compatibility in OSes is the exception, not the rule. IBM does pretty well here. Microsoft does okay. Linux is either fine or a disaster depending on who you ask. MacOS, iOS, and Android laugh at the idea. And even the OSes most dedicated to compatibility devote a ton of effort to ensuring it on new hardware.

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Post by UltraSane »

MomsAVoxell wrote: post #535
UltraSane wrote: post #532

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Systematic manipulation isn't brainwashing. The Internet has made it possible.

Says you! I don’t even know if you’re a bot. You’re probably a bot because you say things I don’t agree with! Wait! Maybe I AM THE ‘bot? What were we talking about again?

If you see very similar comments being made by many different accounts over a small timeframe you are likely seeing bots.

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Post by tucnak »

Lutger wrote: post #425
mystifyingpoi wrote: post #399

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I get the "old man yells at cloud" vibes from your comment. Who cares how he got the result? I thought our job is to create working software. If this flow works for him and creates code that meets company standards, then more power to him. However, if the output quality is crap, then well, maybe his creativity should not be rewarded. I've seem hefty amount of Map in Java, written primarily by JS developers.

As an old man myself, I am quite sure the other old man has a good reason to yell at this particular cloud. Software is tremendously complex. It is one thing to write it, it is another to amend the thousands and thousands of bugs that inevitably follow, and implement the even bigger amount of adjustments and improvements successful software requires. The latter is the bane of any kind of code generation, whether is R…

"Software is incredibly complex"

Who sold you on that lie? Software is anything but complex. Literally guys without any kind of degree could do it. You should try hardware design, validation, with one of them FPGA platforms. Start with something easy like a PCIe core... :-) It will plant you back in reality real quick.

The biggest scam is SWE's convincing themselves that whatever they're doing is soooo complicated!

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Post by nvlled »

tucnak wrote: post #547
Lutger wrote: post #425

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As an old man myself, I am quite sure the other old man has a good reason to yell at this particular cloud. Software is tremendously complex. It is one thing to write it, it is another to amend the thousands and thousands of bugs that inevitably follow, and implement the even bigger amount of adjustments and improvements successful software requires. The latter is the bane of any kind of code generation, whether is R…

"Software is incredibly complex" Who sold you on that lie? Software is anything but complex. Literally guys without any kind of degree could do it. You should try hardware design, validation, with one of them FPGA platforms. Start with something easy like a PCIe core... :-) It will plant you back in reality real quick. The biggest scam is SWE's convincing themselves that whatever they're doing is soooo complicated!

"Who sold you on that lie? Hardware is anything but complex. Literally guys without any kind of degree could do it, just buy a breadboard and some arduino-pi or whatnot."

That's you, that's what you sound like.

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Post by bunnybender »

nadermx wrote: post #59
AtlasBarfed wrote: post #35

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Did you throw any money his way?

Didn't know he had a patreon, just set it up so the first 100 people, since that's the max it allowed, can get a 1 year access to his discord https://www.patreon.com/miguelgrinberg/redeem/f/C28EB241BB

Thank you!
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