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NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public

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I think this is going to be fun because you will be able to concentrate on one player. Imagine if they had done this while, e.g., Lawrence Taylor, was still playing?

This is a real treat because we will get the see the attributed greatness* that previously only coaches, players and NFL Films could verify.

* The type of players for which coaches make adjustments, a week before the game, to account for.

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Additionally, why can't we play Dungeons and Dragons and watch football? I heavily enjoy both. Not to mention Fantasy Football, which is a strategy nerds dream, that they can actually play with their non-nerdy friends. Come to think of it, why don't we have HN Fantasy Football leagues?

I'm also at the intersection of HN and fantasy football, which led me to create http://app.pickemfirst.com a browser extension to manage your fantasy teams

I'm loving the product so far, thank you very much!

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I have enjoyed Football for a while -- good sport, fun to watch. I REALLY got into Football a few years back when I hopped on the fantasy football bandwagon -- a lot of strategy (projections, history, weekly match up, e.g., do I start Tom Brady against Baltimore or RG3 against StL?), statistics, a random element (injuries, x-factor players breaking out, coaches benching people), etc. There is quite a bit of crossover…

You should try Fantasy Baseball. The stats go so much deeper and there is so much more data to process than with football. The strategy involved for informed players can be quite incredible.

I'm always tempted to try it but Fantasy Baseball always seems like too much of a full time job to me. Do you set your lineups on a weekly basis or is it something that requires daily attention?

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All other sports make their own equivalent of it available allowing fans to see every mistake made by every player. What other sports do that?

MLB.tv and TNT Overtime(NBA) both allow you to watch games online with your own choice of camera angles. The MLS seems to be lacking this option.

I didn't know that, I'm not into american football or baseball, but I like the NBA a lot.

TNT Overtime is probably not available in my country (Uruguay), and most live streams are still mostly unwatchable here, but I'd really like to have the option some day :) .

I really like living in the age when cable tv is being replaced by Netflix and equivalent internet broadcasts :) . Sadly my hope that I could enjoy the same stuff being broadcast in the US, Europe and Japan still hasn't come to pass (they've managed to region-encode the Internet :P and proxies are not a long-term answer)

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There's already a budding aftermarket... A gif that demos why Pittsburgh Steelers tight end Heath Miller is such a great run blocker: http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1198471/steelers3.g...

What is so spectacular here? His ability to get down the field or his positioning and ability to not get caught up at the line?? Surely the fact that a 275 lb. lineman with velocity pancaked a 185 lb defensive back is not notable. :)

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Additionally, why can't we play Dungeons and Dragons and watch football? I heavily enjoy both. Not to mention Fantasy Football, which is a strategy nerds dream, that they can actually play with their non-nerdy friends. Come to think of it, why don't we have HN Fantasy Football leagues?

Some friends of mine and I talked about doing one where we wrote bots to manage our teams instead of managing them manually. Then that turned into "We should build a platform that supports that for leagues..." and got lost on beer napkins or something. I still think it'd be fun.

You may find SimBase interesting. Don't know if it was ever open sourced, though.

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You should try Fantasy Baseball. The stats go so much deeper and there is so much more data to process than with football. The strategy involved for informed players can be quite incredible.

I'm always tempted to try it but Fantasy Baseball always seems like too much of a full time job to me. Do you set your lineups on a weekly basis or is it something that requires daily attention?

Daily attention. My friend has done it for several years, and often his dedication is a good enough for why he wins.

But I think it's worse than daily attention. The MLB isn't like the NFL in that its schedule is spread out all over the place. It has to be constantly on your mind to make sure you have the right relief pitchers started, etc.

Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public

#109

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Additionally, why can't we play Dungeons and Dragons and watch football? I heavily enjoy both. Not to mention Fantasy Football, which is a strategy nerds dream, that they can actually play with their non-nerdy friends. Come to think of it, why don't we have HN Fantasy Football leagues?

Some friends of mine and I talked about doing one where we wrote bots to manage our teams instead of managing them manually. Then that turned into "We should build a platform that supports that for leagues..." and got lost on beer napkins or something. I still think it'd be fun.

It would be loads of fun. Unfortunately, I think the primary reason why there aren't a lot of cool ideas like this already implemented is for legal reasons. From what I've heard, starting your own fantasy league by using NFL data is just pretty much impossible.

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#110

I've thought for a while now that the NFL network - their TV presence, the website - is the future of how sports will be. It's an incredibly good product if you're a football fan (as I am - go Niners). The TV channel is well done for the fan, a mix of informality with information - bunch of faces that make us nostalgic due to their past achievements combined with solid anchors who have personality but don't try to ou…

The glaring omission here is DATA. I just want data, and I don't want to have to parse a JSON feed to get my hands on a limited subset of that data.

Of course, an entire business model is in my way, but alas, I don't share your perspective. The NFL is way behind IMO.

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