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Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by sigmar » Wed, Oct 08, 2025, 11:26 PM UTC

s1mon wrote: post #8

I spend way too much time on short videos on Instagram and TikTok. I've got Sora and I've tried a bunch of times and I'm just baffled by its success so far. First of all I almost never use these video services with the sound on. I know I'm not the only one, because many services have captions on by default. Sora doesn't seem to have a solution for this yet. Second, I have almost no desire to see videos with @Sama cam…

It's an MVP with very little creative diversity. But I like the concept of being able to write "change the background to the inside of a circus tent" or "replace the hat with a fedora" and a minute later my own spin is added as a "remix"

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by trenchpilgrim » Wed, Oct 08, 2025, 11:35 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #20

gyomu wrote: post #9

People love Sora in no small part because it lets them make videos with their favorite public figure/fictional character in them. OpenAI knew that, played fast and loose with IP laws because… they wanted that bit of popularity to impress investors or something… then the lawyers got nervous and now they’re dialing it back down. It’s a trick they can pull once but that’s it. I suspect the more limited it inevitably bec…

Who is going to pay to train these "open source models" and why?

Based on what goes on at Civitai: Horny people, mostly, and because horny people, mostly

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by cocogoatmain » Wed, Oct 08, 2025, 11:42 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #20

gyomu wrote: post #9

People love Sora in no small part because it lets them make videos with their favorite public figure/fictional character in them. OpenAI knew that, played fast and loose with IP laws because… they wanted that bit of popularity to impress investors or something… then the lawyers got nervous and now they’re dialing it back down. It’s a trick they can pull once but that’s it. I suspect the more limited it inevitably bec…

Who is going to pay to train these "open source models" and why?

I don’t know about the “why” but Alibaba is definitely paying to train open weight models (https://huggingface.co/Wan-AI)

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by notatoad » Wed, Oct 08, 2025, 11:49 PM UTC

Thrymr wrote: post #16

"AI Bicycles" is a little ironic for the bike parts manufacturer Shimano, whose Sora model of derailleur has been around for years.

shimano retired the sora name just in time for openAI to take it. Sora was replaced by the CUES groupset.

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by bilbo0s » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 12:23 AM UTC

gyomu wrote: post #9

People love Sora in no small part because it lets them make videos with their favorite public figure/fictional character in them. OpenAI knew that, played fast and loose with IP laws because… they wanted that bit of popularity to impress investors or something… then the lawyers got nervous and now they’re dialing it back down. It’s a trick they can pull once but that’s it. I suspect the more limited it inevitably bec…

>that’s why I think open-source models will still come out ahead in the long term

In what data centers would these open models be run such that copyright laws will not apply?

Serious question. Trying to figure all this out.

Is it that you think people will run the models on their own laptops or phones? Or will there be some offshore municipality where the models can be served from that is out of the reach of copyright laws? Do you have another idea in mind entirely? How are you thinking on all this?

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by DoctorOetker » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 12:32 AM UTC

For a moment I thought this article would be about AI autopiloting bicycles, so the user only needs to tread the pedals (an idea I once had, and hence why I followed the link).

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by throwaway106382 » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 1:32 AM UTC

China will release a video model that has no copyright guardrails and they will eat Sora's lunch.

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by agnosticmantis » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 1:37 AM UTC

Business idea: disrupt all these apps by creating an agent that watches all the brainrot for us so we all get our stolen attentions back.

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by agnosticmantis » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 1:45 AM UTC

jasonsb wrote: post #2

This might be controversial, but I genuinely love AI-generated “video slop”. Hear me out for a second: I’m utterly exhausted by influencers peddling their endless “buy this crap” content. Honestly, the AI slop often feels more creative, less salesy and refreshingly free of performative perfection. But Meta knows AI slop poses a problem for their business model. When anyone can churn out engaging content without needi…

Only difference is soon you'll have Mickey Mouse tell you (and your children) to buy same old crap that the influencers were shilling.

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by mpalmer » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 1:56 AM UTC

gyomu wrote: post #9

People love Sora in no small part because it lets them make videos with their favorite public figure/fictional character in them. OpenAI knew that, played fast and loose with IP laws because… they wanted that bit of popularity to impress investors or something… then the lawyers got nervous and now they’re dialing it back down. It’s a trick they can pull once but that’s it. I suspect the more limited it inevitably bec…

Arguably not the first time OAI has played fast and loose, didn't Altman preview a voice for the Live feature that was an obvious clone of Scarlet Johansson (a la Her), and they immediately walked it back once she complained? The publicity they got for that stuck around...