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Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by MattDaEskimo »

jasonsb wrote: post #2

This might be controversial, but I genuinely love AI-generated “video slop”. Hear me out for a second: I’m utterly exhausted by influencers peddling their endless “buy this crap” content. Honestly, the AI slop often feels more creative, less salesy and refreshingly free of performative perfection. But Meta knows AI slop poses a problem for their business model. When anyone can churn out engaging content without needi…

I'm not sure it's fair to separate "AI Slop" with "Buy my crap" marketing.

People will monetize one way or another. It may be more or less explicit with AI slop.

Additionally, I would challenge "AI slop posing a problem": AI Agents and automation of content keeps people engaged inside of a platform, inside of a niche. A democratization may lead to more expensive ad space.

Meta can certainly assist in creating slop and maintaining conversational salespersons

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by jasonsb »

MattDaEskimo wrote: post #11
jasonsb wrote: post #2

This might be controversial, but I genuinely love AI-generated “video slop”. Hear me out for a second: I’m utterly exhausted by influencers peddling their endless “buy this crap” content. Honestly, the AI slop often feels more creative, less salesy and refreshingly free of performative perfection. But Meta knows AI slop poses a problem for their business model. When anyone can churn out engaging content without needi…

I'm not sure it's fair to separate "AI Slop" with "Buy my crap" marketing. People will monetize one way or another. It may be more or less explicit with AI slop. Additionally, I would challenge "AI slop posing a problem": AI Agents and automation of content keeps people engaged inside of a platform, inside of a niche. A democratization may lead to more expensive ad space. Meta can certainly assist in creating slop an…

> Meta can certainly assist in creating slop and maintaining conversational salespersons

They absolutely can and you could’ve said the same about Stack Overflow or Quora. But in the end those platforms fizzled once AI began to democratize the creation of “good-enough” answers. The same trajectory likely awaits Instagram as AI-generated videos reach parity with user-made ones, the distinction between creator and consumer will blur. The shift is inevitable if the technology doesn't hit a wall.

Maybe companies like OpenAI will make even more money by licensing the technology that keeps us entertained, but the influencer economy will eventually collapse. I’m not saying what’s coming is necessarily better, I’m just saying Meta’s platforms are in for a rough ride.

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

#13

Post by rightbyte »

s1mon wrote: post #8

I spend way too much time on short videos on Instagram and TikTok. I've got Sora and I've tried a bunch of times and I'm just baffled by its success so far. First of all I almost never use these video services with the sound on. I know I'm not the only one, because many services have captions on by default. Sora doesn't seem to have a solution for this yet. Second, I have almost no desire to see videos with @Sama cam…

> I also hate just about all Jim Carrey films (except maybe the Truman Show) but many other people seem to love them. Perhaps Sora just isn't for me.

What do you think about Cable Guy? It is essentially a somewhat social realist movie about the total nightmare of having a typical Jim Carrey character in your life. You might like it.

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by asveikau »

rightbyte wrote: post #13
s1mon wrote: post #8

I spend way too much time on short videos on Instagram and TikTok. I've got Sora and I've tried a bunch of times and I'm just baffled by its success so far. First of all I almost never use these video services with the sound on. I know I'm not the only one, because many services have captions on by default. Sora doesn't seem to have a solution for this yet. Second, I have almost no desire to see videos with @Sama cam…

> I also hate just about all Jim Carrey films (except maybe the Truman Show) but many other people seem to love them. Perhaps Sora just isn't for me. What do you think about Cable Guy? It is essentially a somewhat social realist movie about the total nightmare of having a typical Jim Carrey character in your life. You might like it.

Haven't seen that one since it was current. I remember people really disliking it, as Carrey had blown onto the scene with Ace Ventura and set expectations thusly, and it wasn't as successful a role change as Truman Show or even something like Liar Liar.

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by draw_down »

gyomu wrote: post #9

People love Sora in no small part because it lets them make videos with their favorite public figure/fictional character in them. OpenAI knew that, played fast and loose with IP laws because… they wanted that bit of popularity to impress investors or something… then the lawyers got nervous and now they’re dialing it back down. It’s a trick they can pull once but that’s it. I suspect the more limited it inevitably bec…

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Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by delduca »

rightbyte wrote: post #13
s1mon wrote: post #8

I spend way too much time on short videos on Instagram and TikTok. I've got Sora and I've tried a bunch of times and I'm just baffled by its success so far. First of all I almost never use these video services with the sound on. I know I'm not the only one, because many services have captions on by default. Sora doesn't seem to have a solution for this yet. Second, I have almost no desire to see videos with @Sama cam…

> I also hate just about all Jim Carrey films (except maybe the Truman Show) but many other people seem to love them. Perhaps Sora just isn't for me. What do you think about Cable Guy? It is essentially a somewhat social realist movie about the total nightmare of having a typical Jim Carrey character in your life. You might like it.

Cable guy is amazing.

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by freedomben »

gyomu wrote: post #9

People love Sora in no small part because it lets them make videos with their favorite public figure/fictional character in them. OpenAI knew that, played fast and loose with IP laws because… they wanted that bit of popularity to impress investors or something… then the lawyers got nervous and now they’re dialing it back down. It’s a trick they can pull once but that’s it. I suspect the more limited it inevitably bec…

I think you're right. I must say though, it pleases me to see them playing it a bit loose with copyright. Copyright law is a very polarizing issue, and I think it's important to remember there are multiple sides (copyright holders v. consumers, etc), but as a mostly consumer and part-time producer who has had the copyright sharks go after me for my own content because some algorithm or something made them think it was theirs, I want to see those assholes die in a fire. Small and medium creators are the ones most hurt I think. The giant companies have absolutely weaponized every ounce of the IP laws against everyone else, and it's disgusting to me.

Re: Sora, AI Bicycles, and Meta Disruption

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Post by dboreham »

gyomu wrote: post #9

People love Sora in no small part because it lets them make videos with their favorite public figure/fictional character in them. OpenAI knew that, played fast and loose with IP laws because… they wanted that bit of popularity to impress investors or something… then the lawyers got nervous and now they’re dialing it back down. It’s a trick they can pull once but that’s it. I suspect the more limited it inevitably bec…

Who is going to pay to train these "open source models" and why?
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