> For purposes of this chapter: > (a) “Artificial intelligence model” means an engineered or machine-based system that varies in its level of autonomy and that can, for explicit or implicit objectives, infer from the input it receives how to generate outputs that can influence physical or virtual environments. I was curious how California was going to define AI since it's basically a marketing term as of now. Seems l…
So, like my coffee maker?
California governor signs AI transparency bill into law
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hint: It's low because the tech companies are already in agreement with the legislation. This is a huge win compared to a blanket regulatory push.
I want to hope so. They'll agree, until the bubble is prone to bursting and then suddenly that fine might be better to eat.
Re: California governor signs AI transparency bill into law
#114This is censorship with extra steps. Look at what the bill actually requires. Companies have to publish frameworks showing how they "mitigate catastrophic risk" and implement "safety protocols" for "dangerous capabilities." That sounds reasonable until you realize the government is now defining what counts as dangerous and requiring private companies to build systems that restrict those outputs. The Supreme Court alr…
> Add in the narrow exceptions like child porn and true threats, and that's it. You're contradicting yourself. On the one hand you're saying that governments shouldn't have the power to define "safety", but you're in favor of having protections against "true threats". How do you define "true threats"? Whatever definition you may have, surely something like it can be codified into law. The questions then are: how loos…
Brandenburg gives us the standard: speech can only be restricted if it's directed to inciting imminent lawless action and is likely to produce that action. True threats, child porn, fraud, these are all narrow, well-defined categories that survived strict scrutiny. They don't support creating broad new regulatory authority to filter outputs based on "dangerous capabilities."
You're asking how I define true threats. I don't. The Supreme Court does. That's the point. We have a constitutional framework for unprotected speech. It's extremely limited. The government can't just expand it because they think AI is scary.
"This technology is different" is what every regulator says about every new technology. Print was different. Radio was different. The internet was different. The First Amendment applies regardless. If AI enables someone to commit a crime, prosecute the crime. You don't get to regulate the information itself.
And yes, I want the government to stay out of mandating content restrictions. Not because I trust corporations, but because I trust the government even less with the power to define what information is too dangerous to share. You say governments are meant to serve citizens. Tell that to every government that's used "safety" as justification for censorship.
The issue isn't whether we need any AI regulation. It's whether we want to establish that the government can force companies to implement filtering systems based on the state's assessment of what capabilities are dangerous. That's the precedent SB 53 creates. Once that infrastructure exists, it will be used for whatever the government decides needs "safety mitigations" next.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hmm? Creating new models is clearly adding wealth to the world, and it wouldn't terribly surprise me if a lot of source material (e.g. scanned books or recorded music) is older than the people working on models. The history of copyright is basically a perfect example of rent-seeking.
Creating new models doesn’t require taking content without any compensation. That’s the basic flaw in any argument around necessity.
Likewise much of the most important information to want to train on (research literature) was just straight up stolen from the public that paid for its creation already.
By contrast, the models being created from these works are obviously useful to people today. They are clearly a form of new wealth generation. The open-weights models are even an equitable way of doing so, and are competitive with the top proprietary models. Saying the model creators need to pay the people monopolizing generations-old work is the rent-seeking behavior.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s not technically possible to publish a couple of documents?
Which documents? Which are comprehensively listed where? With what indemnification for a good faith effort?
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want to hope so. They'll agree, until the bubble is prone to bursting and then suddenly that fine might be better to eat.
There is no bubble. Your priors are not serving you well here.
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#118> For purposes of this chapter: > (a) “Artificial intelligence model” means an engineered or machine-based system that varies in its level of autonomy and that can, for explicit or implicit objectives, infer from the input it receives how to generate outputs that can influence physical or virtual environments. I was curious how California was going to define AI since it's basically a marketing term as of now. Seems l…
I'm in disagreement with others here: this definition matches no technology in existence, because AIs can't "infer" anything from their input. Likewise, we can't really prove humans can either.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which documents? Which are comprehensively listed where? With what indemnification for a good faith effort?
that's a ridiculous stance to take, and you could take it all day -- regulations change on the net daily , it's a full time job being totally compliant, that's why people make money (..or attempt to..) while doing it.
Re: California governor signs AI transparency bill into law
#120This is censorship with extra steps. Look at what the bill actually requires. Companies have to publish frameworks showing how they "mitigate catastrophic risk" and implement "safety protocols" for "dangerous capabilities." That sounds reasonable until you realize the government is now defining what counts as dangerous and requiring private companies to build systems that restrict those outputs. The Supreme Court alr…
LLMs don't have rights. LLMs are tools, and the state can regulate tools. Humans acting on behalf of these companies can still, if they felt the bizarre desire to, publish assembly instructions for bioweapons on the company blog.