I scrolled this entire thread and still can’t figure out what effect this might have on the ai industry. Everyone’s takes feel excessively either politically motivated knee jerk or nihilistic.
California governor signs AI transparency bill into law
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#82I wonder if whistleblowing applies to copyright claims. For instance, using data sets which involve copying proprietary works scraped from public sources. If so, California might be a dangerous place for some AI companies to operate in.
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#84I scrolled this entire thread and still can’t figure out what effect this might have on the ai industry. Everyone’s takes feel excessively either politically motivated knee jerk or nihilistic.
The effect is it creates a bunch of fake jobs that they can trade for favors while gumming up AI progress.
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sign one more geo region to block. One more region to remember. Internet is becoming fragmented. :-(
Geoblocking the economy that’s the largest in the US and fourth largest in the world (if it were a country) over some kid gloves regulations would be phenomenally stupid.
What else I could possibly do if complying is not technically possible?
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>LLMs are tools, and the state can regulate tools More and more people get information from LLMs. You should be horrified at the idea of giving the state control over what information people can access through them, because going by historical precedent there's 100% chance that the state would use that censorship power against the interests of its citizens.
I'd rather be horrified that people are getting information from LLMs when LLMs have no way to know what it's outputting is true.
Are you also horrified how many people get their facts from Wikipedia, given its systematic biases? All tools have their strengths and weaknesses. But letting politicians decide which information is rightthink seems scary.
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The problem it solves is providing any sort of baseline framework for lawmakers and the legal system to even discuss AI and its impacts based on actual data instead of feels. That's why so much of it is about requiring tech companies to publish safety plans, transparency reports and incidents, and why the penalty for noncompliance is only $10,000. A comprehensive AI regulatory action is way too premature at this stag…
If I had a requirement to either do something I didn't want to do or pay a nickel, I'd just fake doing what needed to be done and wait for the regulatory body to fine me 28 years later after I exhausted my appeal chain. Luckily, inflation turned the nickel into a penny, now defunct, and I rely on the ability to pay debts in legal currency to use another 39 years of appeals.
28yrs for an appeals chain is a bit longer than most realities I'm aware of. More like a dozen years at the top end would be more in line with what I've seen out there.
In general though, it's easier to just comply, even for the companies. It helps with PR and employee retention, etc.
They may fudge the reports a bit, even on purpose, but all groups of people do this to some degree. The question is, when does fudging go too far? There is some gray, but there isn't infinite amounts of gray.
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and what nobody seems to notice, that last part looks like it was generated by Anthropic's Claude (it likes to make bolded lists with check emojis, structured exactly in that manner). Kind of scary implying that they could be letting these models draft legislation
Its possible that ai was used for this summary section, which isn't as scary as you make it. It's def scary that ai is used in a legislative doc at all.
Correct, but yes as you point out in the second half, I don't doubt that if they're using it for summaries then they're likely using it in daily work.
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lol no one's going to geoblock california
What else I could possibly do if complying is not technically possible?
well certainly not geoblock a lot of your customers
maybe your situation is different, but if we geoblocked all of california we'd go out of business within a year