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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by jedimastert »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #133

Genuinely curious: what concrete negative consequences are there from appearing in the background of other people’s photos/videos, in a full face mask no less? Is he afraid that someone will be able to identify him as engaging in a hobby that some people might be judgmental about, e.g. a potential employer finding the footage and concluding “this guy spends lots of time and money playing a children’s game; he’s clear…

I mean the whole point of privacy is you not knowing... It kind of defeats the point if you need a reason, because the reason is probably...private

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Post by paulcole »

brna-2 wrote: post #34
paulcole wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is solved. Videos and photos are allowed in public spaces. You just don’t like the solution.

Heh, you could be right on this one. But on the other hand, if I was the one filming and I knew a person in the frame wanted more privacy if possible I would be glad to omit them or cut them out.

But what if you weren’t glad to omit them or cut them out?

What happens then?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by mothballed »

waste_monk wrote: post #185
mothballed wrote: post #136

I wonder what would happen if someone wore a T-shirt with an ITAR restricted weapons blueprint on it or something. Hypothetically it would be legal to display that in public in the US, but illegal to post it publicly facing for foreigners to access on the internet. Even if it were a gray area, the serious penalties would probably be enough to make someone want to blur it out.

> Hypothetically it would be legal to display that in public in the US Would it? I'm certainly not a lawyer or ITAR expert, but I would think that if you walked through a public space where you couldn't positively confirm that everyone present (and everyone who might view it transitively via video recordings, live streams, etc.) was OK to access the materiel on the shirt, that would be considered an export and you'd…

I'm no ITAR expert either, but IDK how wearing a T-shirt could possibly be an export. My lay understanding of export is that the information would somehow have to leave the country; if someone looks at the T-shirt and transmits it out the country they'd be the exporter, not the person wearing the T-shirt. If someone records the t-shirt and transmits it, they'd be the exporter.

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Post by t-3 »

haskellshill wrote: post #73
tietjens wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this argument is logically flawed. When you say public means not private you are glossing over the fact that public never before meant "available via digital media to the world." Instead it mean a public which had a localized context. Doesn't mean you are wrong, but you're paving over this obvious fact.

But what practical difference does it have that it's "available via digital media to the world."? Are you just opposed to people not in your physical location seeing you? Why?

There's a world of difference. I know the people in my local community and they know me. We speak the same dialects and use the same slang. Nobody is going to take some off-color idiom the wrong way or judge me for poor grammar or enunciation.

I know who the whackjobs are and don't need to interact with them or watch my speech to avoid triggering them and dealing with ensuing harassment, threats, violence.

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Post by paulcole »

brna-2 wrote: post #28
paulcole wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I guess EU could put forth such regulation - no biggie Yes! Another EU regulation will solve this right quick.

Well, actually this could be just a means of letting people know your preference without direct communication. Maybe it could fall under existing GDPR regulation, as an extended part about a public "non consent" marker. How would you solve the problem in large scale, low effort way?

> How would you solve the problem in large scale, low effort way?

The problem is solved in a large scale low effort way (in many places)! If you are in public you can be legally filmed.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

angiolillo wrote: post #176
Gigachad wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything has moved to private spaces now. Friend discord groups, private social media accounts, etc. The age of posting on Facebook under your real name with privacy settings public is long gone because of the numerous obvious risks. But just being seen in a small segment of a YouTube video with no name is a pretty minor risk.

> just being seen in a small segment of a YouTube video with no name is a pretty minor risk It might become a slightly larger risk when image processing and face recognition get cheap enough that anyone can search to find every video/livestream/photo containing your face.

Yeah, it just happened to a woman I know recently. She took part in some naked protests like 20 years ago and photographs of them went up on various sites like Flickr from a host of different photographers and no one ever thought about it. Recently she was targeted in a revenge porn incident by someone who had used facial recognition search engines to gather dozens of nude photographs of her before distributing them by name on porn sites.

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Post by dominicrose »

In the context of airsoft I guess you could cover yourself completely and why not shoot yellow plastic bullets at the cameraman.

The cost of filming is very low. Even people who aren't interested in taking pictures or filming now have a camera with them at all times.

I remember a village in Africa about 20 years ago where people thought cameras stole their soul.

Technology steals everything it can. I mean think of all the data that went into google maps or chatgpt, to only name a couple of apps.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by jedimastert »

I would also push back against the whole "this is just being perceived in public" thing, because you're not consenting to being perceived by the entire planet, you were consenting to being perceived by the people present and in the community. Like if there's a bully in the community, the community can do something about it or you can at least avoid them. Like you are consenting to interacting with a culture of like-minded people, and you know they're like-minded because they all showed up to the same event to do the same thing. That is not true of the open internet.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by eertami »

agedclock wrote: post #124

I found this frustrating to read. First the other airsoft participates he seems to seem to be okay with people filming. There is clearly no expectation of privacy. > I occasionally see people saying “well, if you don’t want to be in photos published online, don’t be in public spaces”. > > This is nonsense, for a number of reasons. Clearly, one should be able to exist in society, including going outside one’s own home…

> There is no expectation of privacy in any place that is considered public.

Well that entirely depends on the country - in the UK it is true, but it wouldn't be true in Switzerland or Germany, where you do have the right to privacy even in public spaces.

> Then this is nothing else than you "not liking it".

The author knows what the laws are, but presumably disagrees with the reasoning behind the laws and is criticising them. If someone came to Switzerland and started complaining that they can't install a doorbell camera, then it would also be a case of them 'not liking it' - but they have a right to voice their opinion.

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