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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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post #94

> well, if you don’t want to be in photos published online, don’t be in public spaces That's the correct answer. End of the story. It is our consensus of what "public space" means and one can do with it (which varies depending on where you are) that forms a lot of our social norms and society. It is why hang drying clothes is acceptable/normal in many parts of the world but not in the US. It is why people are expecte…

Huh? Hanging clothes is absolutely accepted in the US. I have a clothesline.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, thanks for being honest. That's not a world I would want to live in, and I guess I'm thankful most other people don't either. The ability to photograph is important for accountability and truth in a democracy, it's important to families wanting to document and share their trips easily, and it's important for art, among many other things. Fundamentally, it feels like a kind of freedom to me. But it's interesting…

What part of those requires posting my unblurred face online?

Why should I legally be required to do that, and go to jail if I don't? What makes it so important you think it should be criminal not to?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#133
Genuinely curious: what concrete negative consequences are there from appearing in the background of other people’s photos/videos, in a full face mask no less?

Is he afraid that someone will be able to identify him as engaging in a hobby that some people might be judgmental about, e.g. a potential employer finding the footage and concluding “this guy spends lots of time and money playing a children’s game; he’s clearly not a serious person.” That I can understand.

But it seems like his position is stronger than this:

>Publishing someone’s photo online, without their consent, without another strong justification, just because they happen to be in view of one’s camera lens, feels wrong to me

So essentially, it’s wrong to publish any photo that happens to include people in the background? If I take an artistic photo at an art museum [0] or a restaurant [1] or a streetscape [2] and there happen to be people in the background, what possible harm could come to the people incidentally captured?

[0] https://500px.com/search?q=the%20Met&type=photos&sort=releva...

[1] https://500px.com/search?q=Busy%20restaurant&type=photos&sor...

[2] https://500px.com/search?q=Times%20Square%20&type=photos&sor...

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#134
post #48

The answer seems pretty simple. Ask your teammates not to take videos, or find a different group or a different hobby. But since they genuinely enjoy posting the videos, and there's nothing wrong with that, you're probably the one who's going to have move on. You're entitled to not want videos of you taken in public places showing up online. But you're not entitled to getting that outcome.

I expect an airsoft venue is actually a private space, not a public one. Airsoft but-actually-in-public would have people concerned about a terrorist attack, not being recorded for insta. To that extent, the hobbyists who like to create content for the internet should be asking for consent since their footage, and arguably their clout, depends on the participation of everybody else in the group. Otherwise they're jus…

And also, some people could suffer real damages. Imagine if someone is lying to their wife about what they do on the weekend or about who they've gone to a conference with. Or imagine if someone has found themselves with dangerous enemies who discover where they go, what they do and with whom.

At the moment, these things are not the problem of the person taking the video

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What if you're in the photo? Blur that region before posting it with an algorithm that can't be reversed. The camera app could even do this automatically. > What if you're doing something newsworthy? Every good rule has some exceptions.

Sorry. I just don't think parents at the park who take photos of their kids and share them on a public site with friends should be legally required to blur any passerby's face or go to jail. If they want to do it voluntarily then great. But making it criminal if you don't -- I don't understand that.

Why shouldn’t they be fined for invading someone else’s privacy because they’re too lazy to touch up the photos on their phone? — why should their laziness negatively impact others use of public space?

You’re just making an argument for inconveniencing others out of laziness — but trying to dress it up in principles.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#136
I wonder what would happen if someone wore a T-shirt with an ITAR restricted weapons blueprint on it or something. Hypothetically it would be legal to display that in public in the US, but illegal to post it publicly facing for foreigners to access on the internet.

Even if it were a gray area, the serious penalties would probably be enough to make someone want to blur it out.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#137
post #94

> well, if you don’t want to be in photos published online, don’t be in public spaces That's the correct answer. End of the story. It is our consensus of what "public space" means and one can do with it (which varies depending on where you are) that forms a lot of our social norms and society. It is why hang drying clothes is acceptable/normal in many parts of the world but not in the US. It is why people are expecte…

> In any case, here, the issue is somewhat different, since it is a private site, where people engage in private activity (a hobby)

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#138
Social dance (swing, Latin, etc) has some of this too. I think generally where most scenes have fallen is “only film yourself and your friends, unless it’s something intentionally performative like a jam circle or competition, in which case go nuts.”

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part of those requires posting my unblurred face online?

Why should I legally be required to do that, and go to jail if I don't? What makes it so important you think it should be criminal not to?

I think you should be fined for posting pictures of people publicly without their consent.

None of those things require you to invade their privacy and enjoyment of public space — you’re just negatively impacting them because you’re lazy and antisocial.

Fines are how we handle such nuisances in other cases.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#140
post #7

This made me chuckle remembering the time a friend photographed a dog in a bicycle in Berlin and was yelled at by the owner until the photo was deleted. Photographing a pet crossed a big red privacy line. Seems absurd, but I think sensitivity to the phenomenon the author is noting will vary by country.

What if the dog was on the lam?
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