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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by sandblast »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #82
balderdash wrote: post #54

I think the laws around this are fairly antiquated. People should clearly have the right to photograph in public, however, I strongly believe that should someone take someone else’s photograph they shouldn’t need their consent to post the photo publicly or monetize it in anyway. Obviously, there should be some limited car outs like public servants in the commission of their duties, legitimate news organizations, use…

The laws in Switzerland are actually what you're describing.

In the whole EU, I think.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by andersa »

crazygringo wrote: post #95
andersa wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do all of those things without creating a public record of me.

What if I can't? What if you're in the photo? What if you're doing something newsworthy? Or what if you're right behind the person doing something newsworthy?

> What if you're in the photo?

Blur that region before posting it with an algorithm that can't be reversed. The camera app could even do this automatically.

> What if you're doing something newsworthy?

Every good rule has some exceptions.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by crazygringo »

OtherShrezzing wrote: post #66
crazygringo wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. It wouldn't be nice to solve it, because it would mean nobody could ever take a picture of anything where there might be anyone recognizable in the background, without getting them to sign some kind of model release first. Is that what you want? For innocent photography in public to be essentially outlawed?

The article is discussing a private rather than public space. We've got loads of private places where photography is restricted - usually when that space involves physical exercise (gyms, pools, etc). I don't think it's unreasonable to have a level-headed discussion about how society and technology have evolved since those norms came into practice, and if they should be expanded now that photography is ubiquitous.

> usually when that space involves physical exercise (gyms, pools, etc).

You might have that wrong. It's when that space involves people wearing revealing clothing. And Airsoft kit is... not that.

It's not about exercise.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by [deleted] »

eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by AlecSchueler »

sandblast wrote: post #101
AlecSchueler wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The laws in Switzerland are actually what you're describing.

In the whole EU, I think.

No, doesn't work like that in plenty of places in the EU, and additionally Switzerland is not in the EU.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by coffeefirst »

Gigachad wrote: post #51
eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. But you have to accept that being around other people means some people do things you aren’t a fan of.

Smoking in restaurants and bars used to be a part of life, until it wasn’t. It took about 5 years for that shift to roll out pretty much everywhere. And it’s so much nicer without it.

There’s nothing stopping us from saying this sucks, it’s socially toxic, and we’re not going to put up with it anymore.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by gms7777 »

eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I’m currently wedding planning and regularly visit a wedding planning forum. I was left flabbergasted the other day when someone posted if it would be ok to ask guests to not post pictures of the couple on social media. They’re ok with guests posting pictures of themselves or of the venue and decor, they just don’t really want pictures of the bride and groom.

The response ranged from “you can ask but you can’t prevent people from posting” to “it’d be rude and inconsiderate to even ask”. One person even argued that it would be rude and other people would judge them if they went to a wedding and didn’t have a picture of the bride and groom.

I don’t think I ever felt the generational divide as acutely as in reading those responses, and I’m not even that old, I had social media when I was in high school.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by daveoc64 »

octo888 wrote: post #3

We Brits don't speak up enough in general. An e.g. German would have no qualms about going up to the person filming and making their concerns known. That's exactly why it's become normalised Also many people just flip out even about the most reasonable of requests.

>We Brits don't speak up enough in general.

They would be wrong to, given that it's legal to take photographs or videos in a public place.

There is no expectation of privacy in a public place in the UK.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by sebstefan »

>I could, I suppose, ask each person that I see with a camera “would you mind not including me in anything you upload, please?”. And, since everyone with whom I’ve spoken at games, so far anyway, has been perfectly pleasant and friendly

I must be living in a parallel universe of airsoft players. I can't possibly imagine anyone in that space changing their ways because somebody kindly asked them to

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