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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by squigz »

gms7777 wrote: post #108
eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I’m currently wedding planning and regularly visit a wedding planning forum. I was left flabbergasted the other day when someone posted if it would be ok to ask guests to not post pictures of the couple on social media. They’re ok with guests posting pictures of themselves or of the venue and decor, they just don’t really want pictures of the bride and groom. The response ranged from “you can ask but you can’t preven…

If someone asks you not to record them at their own event, and you do, you're an asshole.

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Post by tmm »

haskellshill wrote: post #73
tietjens wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this argument is logically flawed. When you say public means not private you are glossing over the fact that public never before meant "available via digital media to the world." Instead it mean a public which had a localized context. Doesn't mean you are wrong, but you're paving over this obvious fact.

But what practical difference does it have that it's "available via digital media to the world."? Are you just opposed to people not in your physical location seeing you? Why?

The difference is being seen in public is ephemeral and being recorded in public is eternal. In the former, your actions exist in fallible human memories for a short while at most; in the latter there is a permanent digital record of you, geotagged and time stamped and available for perfect recall forever.

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Post by arccy »

delichon wrote: post #125
Gigachad wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally don’t believe that filming airsoft is unreasonable. It’s not unreasonable for OP to not like it, but the majority are either fine with it or filming themselves. So it’s a situation of either dealing with it, or finding a new group to hang out with.

Agree. This isn't about consent when he knows he'll be recorded and participates anyway. Putting it on a consent form wouldn't make it any clearer.

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Post by op00to »

cowpig wrote: post #71
paulcole wrote: post #16

> Clearly, one should be able to exist in society, including going outside one’s own home, without needing to accept this kind of thing. This is not clear at all to me. When you go into public you’re accepting that you might be filmed. The reality is that you are being filmed constantly. It’s just that it bothers you sometimes. It reminds me of The Light of Other Days (a book about a society where technology makes an…

> Nearly everybody gets over it really quick and the world moves on. Perhaps this article being #1 on HN right now is evidence that your perspective is not the same as "nearly everybody" else

The evidence I present is that I have never seen someone complain about someone else filming in public. I’m not sure that the articles position on HN says anything about the majority opinion on a topic, only that it’s of interest.

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Post by juliangmp »

coffeefirst wrote: post #107
Gigachad wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. But you have to accept that being around other people means some people do things you aren’t a fan of.

Smoking in restaurants and bars used to be a part of life, until it wasn’t. It took about 5 years for that shift to roll out pretty much everywhere. And it’s so much nicer without it. There’s nothing stopping us from saying this sucks, it’s socially toxic, and we’re not going to put up with it anymore.

I think that topic worked because a lot of people directly noticed a difference. With the filming it's honestly part of internet culture now. Considering its been illegal in Germany for as long as I remember, it still happens extensively. Especially when you dont know your being filmed.

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Post by ljlolel »

Gigachad wrote: post #77
andersa wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a completely ridiculous comparison. Pointlessly honking or smoking does not create a public record of your activities shared globally without your consent.

No, it just smells like shit, subjects you to a small risk of cancer, and the other disturbs your sleep resulting in a number of mental and physical health issues. I’d much rather be shown on YouTube playing a sport.

Smoking also disturbs sleep

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Post by squigz »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #133

Genuinely curious: what concrete negative consequences are there from appearing in the background of other people’s photos/videos, in a full face mask no less? Is he afraid that someone will be able to identify him as engaging in a hobby that some people might be judgmental about, e.g. a potential employer finding the footage and concluding “this guy spends lots of time and money playing a children’s game; he’s clear…

You're looking for a generic reason, I think, and there isn't and doesn't need to be one other than "people can desire their privacy for various reasons"

Maybe publicizing where someone is every week lets criminals plan their crimes. Maybe it gives away someone's location to an abusive ex or family member or stalker. Maybe people just don't want Google and the like to have even more data about our whereabouts and actions and identity.

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Post by mothballed »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #112

It's a legally grey area. In most countries, you can't really stop people from shooting video and photos in public spaces. But you can do something about publishing the material. Most stock photography websites and similar websites will insist on permission from identifiable individuals in photos or videos for this reason. And a lot of conferences or fairs will give notice of the fact that there will be photos and vi…

In the US in most states it's illegal to monetize the image of children [without consent] unless it's just incidental to the film.

I'd imagine if 17 year olds were allowed you could make it legally dicy enough for someone that they'd not want to do it, if they were profiting off of it.

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Post by 1gn15 »

tietjens wrote: post #7

This made me chuckle remembering the time a friend photographed a dog in a bicycle in Berlin and was yelled at by the owner until the photo was deleted. Photographing a pet crossed a big red privacy line. Seems absurd, but I think sensitivity to the phenomenon the author is noting will vary by country.

That does sound absurd indeed.
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