Been waiting for this for a long time! CloudFlare developer platform is underrated. The ability to use queues, cache (KV), Hyperdrive, and R2 (an S3 equivalent) with one line of code is just brilliant.
Cloudflare Email Service: private beta
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#72I feel like I'm missing something based on some of the comments here. How is this different than from SES? (Why is this controversial?)
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#73I am really excited to follow how their Containers platform matures as it is still too early.
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#74It's unfortunate that email hosting and email infrastructure can really be done only well by major players. The days of people running and maintaining their own are pretty much long gone. Fwiw, not a knock against CF. I like their products, mostly simple, fair pricing, etc. Just a bit unfortunate commentary on the state of email infra on the internet.
This is a myth though (with some truth to it in certain cases). I've run my own mail infrastructure since 1999, no issues.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their lowest plan is now $20/month for 50,000 emails. It's totally overkill for low traffic projects. With a pricing structure like that it appears they became too tired of verifying/validating users to not send spam. Unfortunately I don't blame them.
$10/year for 10,000 messages/year is 10 cents per message. (Or some other volume at 10 cents/message.) Surely too high for spammers but cheap enough for an app with a low message volume.
Barrier to entry for (12 * $20) is much higher than $10/year and they figure that was worth the tradeoff of losing small fish customers.
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#77Been waiting for this for a long time! CloudFlare developer platform is underrated. The ability to use queues, cache (KV), Hyperdrive, and R2 (an S3 equivalent) with one line of code is just brilliant.
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#78Eventually all Internet protocols will be MITMed by cloudflare. Your single point of interception!
Was about to comment on this but you got right to the point. All of this is because people are lazy to build, let alone maintain, their own damn programs and servers.
(cloudflare customer, in both personal and professional capacities; i pay Fastmail to host family email; both can easily be switched if needed to prevent lock in, with DNS changes and in the case of hosted email, an export of mailboxes and tenant config)
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#79Eventually all Internet protocols will be MITMed by cloudflare. Your single point of interception!
https://blog.cloudflare.com/enterprise-grade-features-for-al... That's great - and maybe I'm cynical - but that's right where my mind went when I read that. Trading income for control isn't a bad game..
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#80No doubt cloudflare will refuse to receive emails from any mailservers except those that run special cloudflare extensions or whatever. It'll be a whitelist that's mostly corps only. For "security" of course. And eventually it'll be so popular other mailservers will stop accepting mail from any except cloudflare/ms/apple/etc.