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Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Been waiting for this for a long time! CloudFlare developer platform is underrated. The ability to use queues, cache (KV), Hyperdrive, and R2 (an S3 equivalent) with one line of code is just brilliant.

I really like CF focus on developers but their R2 is not quite configurable yet as S3. I am looking forward to move away from S3 if R2 can get their bucket policies and permissions as advanced as S3.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#73
Cloudflare at some point will basically compete with AWS as the entire infra platform for developers. They are slowly building tools one after another.

I am really excited to follow how their Containers platform matures as it is still too early.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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It's unfortunate that email hosting and email infrastructure can really be done only well by major players. The days of people running and maintaining their own are pretty much long gone. Fwiw, not a knock against CF. I like their products, mostly simple, fair pricing, etc. Just a bit unfortunate commentary on the state of email infra on the internet.

This is a myth though (with some truth to it in certain cases). I've run my own mail infrastructure since 1999, no issues.

Have you had static IP since then? A problem is that most new mail servers will have IP address with history.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their lowest plan is now $20/month for 50,000 emails. It's totally overkill for low traffic projects. With a pricing structure like that it appears they became too tired of verifying/validating users to not send spam. Unfortunately I don't blame them.

$10/year for 10,000 messages/year is 10 cents per message. (Or some other volume at 10 cents/message.) Surely too high for spammers but cheap enough for an app with a low message volume.

It's not about optimizing for low volume side projects.

Barrier to entry for (12 * $20) is much higher than $10/year and they figure that was worth the tradeoff of losing small fish customers.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#77
post #6

Been waiting for this for a long time! CloudFlare developer platform is underrated. The ability to use queues, cache (KV), Hyperdrive, and R2 (an S3 equivalent) with one line of code is just brilliant.

Same here. Cloudflare products are a really good balance for small projects that could eventually need to scale up. Durable objects is such a cool concept in itself that I don't know why it didn't catchup the same way in other providers.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Eventually all Internet protocols will be MITMed by cloudflare. Your single point of interception!

Was about to comment on this but you got right to the point. All of this is because people are lazy to build, let alone maintain, their own damn programs and servers.

I have more money than time. Take my money to do things I do not have time for. What you call lazy, I call time and capital/cashflow efficient.

(cloudflare customer, in both personal and professional capacities; i pay Fastmail to host family email; both can easily be switched if needed to prevent lock in, with DNS changes and in the case of hosted email, an export of mailboxes and tenant config)

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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post #4

Eventually all Internet protocols will be MITMed by cloudflare. Your single point of interception!

https://blog.cloudflare.com/enterprise-grade-features-for-al... That's great - and maybe I'm cynical - but that's right where my mind went when I read that. Trading income for control isn't a bad game..

I have been logging in via ssso on business non enterprise plan for a year. Am I a part of an a/b test or what?

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#80

No doubt cloudflare will refuse to receive emails from any mailservers except those that run special cloudflare extensions or whatever. It'll be a whitelist that's mostly corps only. For "security" of course. And eventually it'll be so popular other mailservers will stop accepting mail from any except cloudflare/ms/apple/etc.

Where are you getting this from?
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