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Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Ahem. https://www.gally.net/miscellaneous/hn-em-dash-user-leaderbo... As #9 on the leaderboard I feel like I need to defend myself.

I’m guessing this list is defined by Mac users who all got taught em dash somewhere similar or for similar reasons. It is only easy to use on a Mac. But I wonder what is the 2nd common influence of users using it?

Android — keyboard – good for endash to !

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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I don't think there are humans involved. I've now seen countless PRs to some repos I maintain that claim to be fixing non-existent bugs, or just fixing typos. One that I got recently didn't even correctly balanced the parenthesis in the code, ugh. I call this technique: "sprAI and prAI".

We will quickly evolve a social contract that AI are not allowed to directly contact humans and waste their time with input that was not reviewed by other humans, and any transgression should by swiftly penalized. It's essentially spam, automatically generated content that is profitable in large volume because it offsets the real cost to the victims, by wasting their limited attention span. If you wantme to read your…

Uh that sounds awesome, but if humanity worked like that then things like actual spam e-mail and "robo-calls" would not exist, right? But they do, and they have done for a while. Sorry for maybe sounding cynical, but I have a really hard time believing in your prognosis.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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The '—' gave it away. No one types this character on purpose.

And where did you suppose AIs learned this, if not from us? Turns out lots of us use dashes — and semicolons! And the word “the”! — and we’re going to stuff just because others don’t like punctuation.

Books use it more liberally, internet writings not so much. Also some languages are much more prone to using it while some practically never use it

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Some people actually do that on Github too. Absolute psychopaths.

I think the JS/Node scene was the pioneer in spamming emojis absolutely everywhere, well before AI. Maybe that's where the models picked it up from.

That's because utf-8 was such an absolute mess in JS that adding an emoji in your code was a flex that it worked.

Sane languages have much less of this problem but the damage was done by the cargo cultists.

Much like how curly braces in C are placed because back in the day you needed you punch card deck to be editable, but we got stuck with it even after we stared using screens.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#155

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I don't think there are humans involved. I've now seen countless PRs to some repos I maintain that claim to be fixing non-existent bugs, or just fixing typos. One that I got recently didn't even correctly balanced the parenthesis in the code, ugh. I call this technique: "sprAI and prAI".

We will quickly evolve a social contract that AI are not allowed to directly contact humans and waste their time with input that was not reviewed by other humans, and any transgression should by swiftly penalized. It's essentially spam, automatically generated content that is profitable in large volume because it offsets the real cost to the victims, by wasting their limited attention span. If you wantme to read your…

When you put it like that, what AI does in cases like this, is enable us all to treat each other like e.g. Google and Facebook (and any sufficiently big corporate-bureaucratic entity) has treated us for a long time.

We have reviewed your claims and found that [the account impersonating your grandma] has not violated our guidelines.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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You're doing it wrong: You should just feed other peoples AI-generated responses into your own AI tools and let the tool answer for you! The loop is then closed, no human time wasted, and the only effect is wasted energy to run the AI tools. It's the perfect business model to turn energy into money.

You joke, but some companies are pushing this idea unironically by putting "use AI to expand a short message into a bloated mess" and "use AI to turn a bloated mess into a brief summary" into both sides of the same product. Good job everyone, we've invented the opposite of data compression.

Great cartoon with comment about this problem:

https://marketoonist.com/2023/03/ai-written-ai-read.html

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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I really hate all those CLI applications and terminal configurations that look like circus came to town.

I don't love emojis for this purely because they're graphically inconsistent; I can't style them with my terminal font or colour scheme. But I'm a huge fan of using various (single-width) unicode chars with colour to make terminal output a lot easier to parse, visually. Colour and iconography are extremely useful.

Hieroglyphics are vastly underused.

    𓂫 ~ 𓃝 JdeBP𓆈localhost 𓅔 %                                𓅭 pts/0

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#158

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The '—' gave it away. No one types this character on purpose.

And where did you suppose AIs learned this, if not from us? Turns out lots of us use dashes — and semicolons! And the word “the”! — and we’re going to stuff just because others don’t like punctuation.

I'm starting to wonder if there's a real difference between the populations who use em dashes and those who think it's a sign of AI. The former are the ones who write useful stuff online, which the AIs were trained on, and the latter are the consumers who probably never paid attention to typography and only started commenting on dashes after they became a meme on LinkedIn.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Yeah but a dash, at least on my keyboard is a '-', not the one quoted above.

En and em dashes are easily accessible on both my laptop's and phone's keyboard layouts and I like using them, just like putting the ö in coöperate. It's sad if this now makes me look like a robot and I have to use the wrong dashes to be more "human".

TIL that some people spell cooperate with an "ö".

As a Swedish native it really breaks my reading of an English word, but apparently it's supposed to indicate that you should pronounce each "o" separately. Language is fun.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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This kind of thing isn't new. When I maintained a Google owned project on GitHub in the pre-LLM era someone submitted a slop PR "fixing" some tests, seemingly generated with some kind of static analysis tool. The description was clearly copy-pasted as well.
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