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Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Can this tech be used for EV batteries?

EV batteries have active cooling systems that force cool air through the packs.

Even better, it’s not air, it’s usually liquid coolant. In my Lightning it’s the same formula they use for their gas engines, even.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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What a trivial thing to be “eternally baffled” by

It is likely a textbook case of the paradox seen in many domains where humans take extra safety precautions as a license to be reckless such that it creates more damage than if the extra safety precautions were never taken. How do you explain the contradiction of people who go through the pretense of protecting their phone then engaging in behavior that somehow smashes it regularly in a way that demonstrably cannot b…

How is the average reader to know whether you're an entirely average person or an eight-sigma indoors dweller who never goes hiking, never asks another person to take a photo of you, never does any sports...

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Last night I encountered a 3 min+ ad on YT about the construction of the iPhone 17 Pro. A few seconds were devoted to the cooling system. I watched the whole thing. It was better than the video it interrupted. https://youtu.be/_-AS5DtDeqs?si=rTfubRDArVupqREt

Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

iPhone screens haven't been cracking for years now.

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That seems wasteful

$120/year on an iPhone 17, or $140/year on Air, Pro, and Pro Max Even for one year that's more than I'd spend to avoid using a phone case, and if I keep it for five years again that's $700. There are other benefits to AppleCare (a case doesn't cover theft or loss) but I'm not very worried about any of them.

I mean its wasteful in terms of the energy/co2 required to service your phone replacements. Wasting resources unnecessarily.

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Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

> Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" You can buy a $400m yacht and still need buoys when you dock it. Unless you want a phone that comes with a pre-installed rubber bumper around the outside, or we have some humanity altering discoveries in transparent materials science, you’re always going to have a case. Gravity and concrete…

You don’t leave the bumpers out at all times. The decking and furniture are all built from suitable materials to not need additional protection. Phone cases are an anomaly.

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Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

> I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. This hasn’t been true for a while with iPhones. I drop mine about this often, and after a few years it’s a little scratched but otherwise fine.

You must not drop it on the front corners

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> I am eternally baffled as to why people need cases on their phones. > I view phones as semi-disposable devices, so I take no special care or precautions. Have you considered that for other people phones are a significant financial investment?

That isn't explanatory. If they cared about the financial investment then they wouldn't be regularly smashing their phones in the first place because it is clearly possible to do without a case. It is a side effect of behavior.

Shit happens. Putting a case on my phone improves the likelihood that my $1200 phone doesn’t shatter. People have kids, animals, and make silly little mistakes that can have massively expensive consequences.

I’m not regularly smashing my phone or especially careless with it, but in a year I’ve seen it take a dozen or so drops and I’m glad it had a case on it when it did.

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Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

Cases are great because everyone can get one that matches their risk level and frequency of drops. Having a sacrificial outer layer that I can replace for $10 is also preferable to letting the $1000 phone take the damage.

We call these the “use case scenarios”

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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For a lot of people, a phone is a major purchase. Why not throw a $30 case on to protect the $1000 device?

That is not relevant to the question of how people constantly break something that isn't particularly breakable. If they cared about the cost of the phone, I would expect them to demonstrate slightly less wanton disregard for it such that they routinely smash it. I also know plenty of people that regularly break their phones even with a case. At some point, you have to conclude people don't actually care if they smas…

It’s really not. I one time had a phone fall out of my pocket while getting out of my truck, and literally hit my foot on its way down which propelled it face up into the bottom of my front tire which shattered the screen. There was absolutely nothing I could do to stop it, and there’s no reason I’d have ever thought it’d just fall out. I probably got out of that truck in the exact same way for 2 years and the phone never fell out.

The fact you’re baffled that accidents happen makes me question if you’re trolling or literally live in a bubble.

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Saying "gravity and concrete are undefeated" is not explanatory. In 25+ years of carrying a naked mobile phone everywhere I've never broken one. My lifestyle theoretically exposes me to significantly greater risk of damage than the average person too. I view phones as semi-disposable devices, so I take no special care or precautions. I am eternally baffled as to why people need cases on their phones. The observation…

It depends on where you drop it. Dropping phones on pavement is easy mode. One mistake over coarse gravel and you're pretty fucked even without much height.

What is it about coarse gravel that makes it a phone killer? Is it because there are more edges?
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