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Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by tempestn »

avalys wrote: post #159
cj wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

I’ve been carrying an iPhone since the first one - so, almost 20 years? Have never used a case. I’ve dropped them plenty of times. Only once did I do major damage, and that was to the all-glass rear panel of a 4S. I’ve never broken a screen or had to replace a phone due to damage. The iPhone is very durable! You don’t need a case. They’re bulky and ugly!

I don't think most people need a bulky case. You can get aramid cases that barely add any thickness, but still protect the phone from dents and scuffs.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by lawgimenez »

iknowstuff wrote: post #155
bri3d wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started using cases after having a Pixel 2 XL shatter in a 1 foot drop onto a granite countertop, but started going case-less again with my most recent iPhone 15 Pro (ironically, after the horrible quality Apple case I mistakenly bought with it disintegrated). It's been a year so far of completely non-cautious use and my general take is: * The screen still scratches; I leave my phone in my pocket or a bicycle saddl…

The titanium frame really is strong. The 17 pro’s aluminum will dent way more easily

I dropped my iPhone 15 Pro Max to my wife's iPhone 14 and it cracked the 14's screen right away. Because of these event, I started going caseless with my 15.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by ori_b »

tw04 wrote: post #146
cj wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

> Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" You can buy a $400m yacht and still need buoys when you dock it. Unless you want a phone that comes with a pre-installed rubber bumper around the outside, or we have some humanity altering discoveries in transparent materials science, you’re always going to have a case. Gravity and concrete…

> Unless you want a phone that comes with a pre-installed rubber bumper around the outside

Sure, why not? If there's going to be a rubber bumper anyways, why wouldn't I want the manufacturer to ship it?

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by jandrewrogers »

tw04 wrote: post #146
cj wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

> Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" You can buy a $400m yacht and still need buoys when you dock it. Unless you want a phone that comes with a pre-installed rubber bumper around the outside, or we have some humanity altering discoveries in transparent materials science, you’re always going to have a case. Gravity and concrete…

Saying "gravity and concrete are undefeated" is not explanatory.

In 25+ years of carrying a naked mobile phone everywhere I've never broken one. My lifestyle theoretically exposes me to significantly greater risk of damage than the average person too. I view phones as semi-disposable devices, so I take no special care or precautions.

I am eternally baffled as to why people need cases on their phones. The observation that many people do seem to break them frequently isn't an explanation. I can't wrap my head around the degree of clumsiness and carelessness that would seem to be required to explain this phenomenon.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by GeekyBear »

cj wrote: post #32
Wistar wrote: post #3

Last night I encountered a 3 min+ ad on YT about the construction of the iPhone 17 Pro. A few seconds were devoted to the cooling system. I watched the whole thing. It was better than the video it interrupted. https://youtu.be/_-AS5DtDeqs?si=rTfubRDArVupqREt

Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

> I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height.

Here's video of a drop test where the new Pro version survived drops to the pavement on its front, back, and side from hip height, then the same three drops from shoulder height, before finally having the front glass fail in the third drop from as high above his head as dude's arms would reach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oof5z3BNTdY

Not exactly super fragile, although the orange finish on the aluminum scuffed up much more easily than the finish they use on titanium frames.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by buzzerbetrayed »

cj wrote: post #32
Wistar wrote: post #3

Last night I encountered a 3 min+ ad on YT about the construction of the iPhone 17 Pro. A few seconds were devoted to the cooling system. I watched the whole thing. It was better than the video it interrupted. https://youtu.be/_-AS5DtDeqs?si=rTfubRDArVupqREt

Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

I haven’t used a case in years. The whole premise of your comment is wrong. Cases aren’t required at all. Phones are hella durable.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by [deleted] »

cj wrote: post #32
Wistar wrote: post #3

Last night I encountered a 3 min+ ad on YT about the construction of the iPhone 17 Pro. A few seconds were devoted to the cooling system. I watched the whole thing. It was better than the video it interrupted. https://youtu.be/_-AS5DtDeqs?si=rTfubRDArVupqREt

Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

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Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by pxc »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #164
tw04 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" You can buy a $400m yacht and still need buoys when you dock it. Unless you want a phone that comes with a pre-installed rubber bumper around the outside, or we have some humanity altering discoveries in transparent materials science, you’re always going to have a case. Gravity and concrete…

Saying "gravity and concrete are undefeated" is not explanatory. In 25+ years of carrying a naked mobile phone everywhere I've never broken one. My lifestyle theoretically exposes me to significantly greater risk of damage than the average person too. I view phones as semi-disposable devices, so I take no special care or precautions. I am eternally baffled as to why people need cases on their phones. The observation…

It depends on where you drop it. Dropping phones on pavement is easy mode. One mistake over coarse gravel and you're pretty fucked even without much height.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by jorvi »

tw04 wrote: post #146
cj wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" I'm guessing phone cases are still pretty much required if you drop your phone once or twice a month onto cement/asphalt/marble/etc from pocket height. I would be really curious to hear the internal debate at Apple wrt design tradeoffs + durability. E.g. how much of the iPhone design is only…

> Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" You can buy a $400m yacht and still need buoys when you dock it. Unless you want a phone that comes with a pre-installed rubber bumper around the outside, or we have some humanity altering discoveries in transparent materials science, you’re always going to have a case. Gravity and concrete…

> Unless you want a phone that comes with a pre-installed rubber bumper around the outside, or we have some humanity altering discoveries in transparent materials science, you’re always going to have a case. Gravity and concrete are undefeated.

But they are defeated. By plastics, no bumper required. This is why the Nokia Windows phones felt so indestructible, polycarbonate is an amazing material for a phone body.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by artursapek »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #164
tw04 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Watching that video, the first thought I have is "So much engineering and I still need to buy a phone case with my new phone?" You can buy a $400m yacht and still need buoys when you dock it. Unless you want a phone that comes with a pre-installed rubber bumper around the outside, or we have some humanity altering discoveries in transparent materials science, you’re always going to have a case. Gravity and concrete…

Saying "gravity and concrete are undefeated" is not explanatory. In 25+ years of carrying a naked mobile phone everywhere I've never broken one. My lifestyle theoretically exposes me to significantly greater risk of damage than the average person too. I view phones as semi-disposable devices, so I take no special care or precautions. I am eternally baffled as to why people need cases on their phones. The observation…

For a lot of people, a phone is a major purchase. Why not throw a $30 case on to protect the $1000 device?
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