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U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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According to swiss news orange man does in fact complain about swiss foreign policies to the American public.

News to me.

Ex. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/04/swiss-presid...

He literally made a personal point out of it calling the swiss president things in public.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Taking back control by _checks notes_ handing the Chinese propaganda tool to supporters of the current administration?

You wrote this as a snarky rebuttal but you seem to be agreeing with OP? Confusing post.

I didn't realize I was agreeing with op tbh (and I'm still not certain)

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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So much for capitalism and the invisible hand of the free market: forced sellout, TikTok US forbidden to compete with TikTok, board member appointed by the government, infrastructure contract has to be given to a selected company ‘oracle’.

That’s something you see in Russia, not America.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#624
post #621

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News to me.

Ex. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/04/swiss-presid... He literally made a personal point out of it calling the swiss president things in public.

I don't see any complaints about the Swiss policy of neutrality, which is what I want to adopt in the US.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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I mean I do want the world's most influential social media app to be within the jurisdiction of a non-authoritarian state, yes.

The USA is also an authoritarian State, it just has better marketing. I live in Taiwan. I'm no fan of the CPC. But if you zoom out a bit, it's kinda hard to distinguish the two beyond Americans winning global cultural victory (CPC propaganda is still goofy and obvious). Point at tiananmem square, an atrocious massacre of their own citizenry. The USA has done this - it has locked its citizens in concentration camps, s…

This is your annual reminder that white Muslims do in fact exist.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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The people who have been very vocal about forcing US ownership of TikTok have also been very, very open about their Zionism on social media. A16z has been pushing for this hard since the start of the genocide. Zionists blame "TikTok" for their opposition. They even call the younger people who don't support Israel the "TikTok Generation". This along with the consolidation of other US media assets under Zionist control…

> This along with the consolidation of other US media assets under Zionist control Conspiracy theory.

What evidence do you need to see?

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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> Board will include one U.S. government–appointed director. In other words, one's data will now be under the scrutiny of amoral radicals who have decided to target people for political speech.

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Weren't they just reporting to Twitter when they saw posts breaker twitters existing policies?

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We are doing state capitalism without China’s “serve the people” bit. Hm, maybe there’s a name for that type of government, idk.

"Democratic People's Republic of America"

Probably more like "Republican People's Democracy of America"

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN. And now Ellison is going to take over TikTok. Paramount(being run by Larry Ellison's son) is looking to install the pro-israel-propagandist who has variously masqueraded as a liberal, a conservative and anti-woke free-speech champion, Bari Weiss[1] as CBS's editor-in-chief or co-president[2]. It also bears mention…

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In large part, yes. There is also Trump, Republicans and their drive to carve out a bigger conservative-space in a liberal-dominated media landscape. There is Silicon valley, the rising digital-military-industrial complex, the china hawks, the intelligence apparatus and the security state, and the usual self-interests of the billionaire class. All of these forces are currently colluding to control the narrative (i.e. minds) in their favor. But I will argue the Israel angle is a big part of it which is being under-reported on ( by design).

Trump went after TikTok in his first presidency but was ultimately unsuccessful. It was the Biden government that successully banned TikTok last year in a bipartisan bill. What was the impetus then and why did it succeed? Listen to Charlie Kirk's personal take[1] on why Tiktok got banned (and how the right capitalized on it) :

  [..] the buried lede of the October 7th was that it it got TikTok banned and remember the Tiktok ban stalled based on just China concerns, but TikTok was the the hub of a lot of the anti-israel sentiment that was brewing with Gen Z and all of a sudden the TikTok ban got resurfaced. Mitt Romney said at a security conference "we are Banning Tik Tok because it is sowing anti-israel sentiment in the United States."   
Multiple congressman and representatives have cited anti-israel sentiment as their reason [2].

Tiktok recently hired Erica Mindel - an instructor in the Armoured Corps in the Israeli army’s spokesperson’s unit - to lead the company’s hate speech policy. The potential hiring of Bari Weiss to head the CBS news division reveals a similar underlying motive. One which is laid out by the CEO of the ADL, in his address to the Israeli Knesset[3] :

  "Pushing extremists off Wikipedia might not seem equal to the challenge of pushing Hezbollah to north of the Litani River; capturing TikTok might seem less meaningful than holding on to Mount Hermon (A mountain peak in Syria which Israel conquered in their undeclared invasion of Syria late last year); libelous tweets certainly might seem less deadly than missiles from Yemen but this is urgent because the next war will be decided based on how Israel and its allies perform online as much as offline. Make no mistake it's real we saw that in the propaganda that anti-israel groups pushed out in America on October 7th accusing Israel of committing genocide."
[1] - https://x.com/DelGroyp/status/1856577467596845279 https://xcancel.com/DelGroyp/status/1856577467596845279

[2] - https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/tiktok-ban-israel-palest... https://archive.is/20250918033631/https://theintercept.com/2...

[3] - https://x.com/infolibnews/status/1968177947724198243 https://xcancel.com/infolibnews/status/1968177947724198243

[4] - https://jewishinsider.com/2025/07/tiktok-hate-speech-manager... , https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/tiktok-hires-ex-israe...

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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> to support Israel? Is that what this is about? It’s for money and power. Because of the partisan nature of the power grab, a certain grab bag of evangelical, fossil fuel and anti-gay tenets are going to get reïnforced. But treating those as the cause dangerously misses that this is being started at home.

I'd like to hear from the person I'm responding to, as it sounds an awful lot like a dog whistle.

I replied to your original comment.

Also, I wasn't invoking some dog-whistle. I was using the same phraseology of the Zionists. From the CEO of the ADL, Jonathan Greenblatt, addressing the Israeli Knesset[1] :

  "Pushing extremists off Wikipedia might not seem equal to the challenge of pushing Hezbollah to north of the Litani River; capturing TikTok might seem less meaningful than holding on to Mount Hermon ; libelous tweets certainly might seem less deadly than missiles from Yemen but this is urgent because the next war will be decided based on how Israel and its allies perform online as much as offline. Make no mistake it's real we saw that in the propaganda that anti-israel groups pushed out in America on October 7th accusing Israel of committing genocide."

He describes Tiktok as a target to be captured, comparing it to a mountain in Syria which Israel conquered late last year in its unannounced invasion of Syria. They make no bones about the fact that our minds are just another battlespace in this war that they're waging.

[1] - https://x.com/DelGroyp/status/1856577467596845279 https://xcancel.com/DelGroyp/status/1856577467596845279

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