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U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by Jensson »

crummy wrote: post #460
vehemenz wrote: post #404

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Republicans, not USA

Isn't this as bipartisan as it gets? Trump wanted China to divest from Tiktok. Congress passed the bill. Biden signed it. The Supreme Court agreed that, yes, this is legal. Sure, people didn't vote for Larry Ellison to take control. But something like this is what we wanted, right?

It is, if it was Democrats installing a government appointed board seat you'd see a very different response to this event from both sides, but both sides want to do this in the end.

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SilverbeardUnix wrote: post #207
Animats wrote: post #196

With, apparently, a board member appointed by the Trump administration. The U.S Steel deal included three board seats, but the Intel deal did not include any. This is starting to look like the way China does things, with the central government having a financial stake in important companies.

I'm not a fan of the administration by any means but a lot of democracies do this. Public/Private partnerships are commonplace in Europe.

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Post by nebula8804 »

Jensson wrote: post #596
nebula8804 wrote: post #541

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Oh great now Americans get to talk about things the US government could care less about while at the same time losing the ability to criticize Israel or the current administration. Does not sound like a great win. There were plenty of platforms to talk about those topics already. What didn't exist was a platform that expressly talked about things the US does not like. It could be argued that the rise in pro-palestine…

> losing the ability to criticize Israel or the current administration When did Americans lose that ability? I didn't hear about this happening. > could be argued that the rise in pro-palestine awareness post Oct 7 is in part to TikTok. Thats likely going away now so Americans on the whole are left worse off. The only thing that changed is that China can't choose what you get shown, do you think that the pro-palestin…

>When did Americans lose that ability? I didn't hear about this happening.

It fell in between the razer thin "terms & conditions" of most American service providers and the the main point of this thread: controlling the algorithm to suppress these thoughts. I will concede that Americans can still set up their own online service and yell into an empty room.

>The only thing that changed is that China can't choose what you get shown, do you think that the pro-palestine videos are only there due to Chinese influence?

anything that China does not find offensive is there.

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Post by platevoltage »

MiiMe19 wrote: post #468
dashundchen wrote: post #260

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These fascist Republicans are not intending on giving up power. A bit China mixed with the sham democracies of Russia, Hungary or Turkey - this is the model they're going for. What do you think the push behind the new gerrymandered districts is for? Why do you think they are assembling a national voter registration database that hasn't existed before? https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-doj-national-... Wh…

I thought conservatives were the conspiracy theorists. 1. Gerrymandering is and always has been a thing, blue and red. Nothing has changed. 2. Government puts government data from multiple government places into one government place. More news at 11. 3. Because you get stabbed/shot for just existing in them? Because of the riots earlier this year? Fascism = Something I don't like. Get a grip.

Have mid decade redistrictings at the request of the president so he doesn't lose his ass in the midterms always been a thing?

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Post by Jensson »

smegma2 wrote: post #338
LetsGetTechnicl wrote: post #173

Are there any other examples of something like this happening? A successful (foreign) app is forced to be sold to a US company just because of its country of origin? What happened to the free market? It's remarkable that privacy is even in the conversation when FAANG is just as bad Not to mention that this is all just a distraction from the very real destruction Trump 2.0 is doing to peoples' lives, safety, financial…

Yes, in 2020 Grindr was forced to sell for similar reasons.

And why didn't people get up in arms over that?

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Post by Jensson »

lmm wrote: post #571
tinyhouse wrote: post #206

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What's the problem with being pro-israel? Everyone needs to be pro-whatever-you-prefer? I'm pro-israel too.

Did you miss the news that they're conducting a genocide?

I don't think Israel is conducting a genocide, to me for something to be a genocide you need to do much more than they are currently doing. To me it seems like they are conducting a fairly standard occupation with very authoritarian military control, that is not genocide.

Words tend to get watered down over time, if they were gassing Palestinians like Hitler gassed yews people would have a very different opinion on this matter, which is why I feel words shouldn't be watered down that much.

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Post by Jensson »

archerx wrote: post #47
SilverElfin wrote: post #8

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I doubt it. Oracle has a booming datacenter and cloud business right now. Their role is to host the data in a US jurisdiction, which they can do. It won’t affect the success or failure of TikTok. And frankly it won’t give TikTok users privacy since the data can still be accessed by software written by Chinese employees.

Yea, I’m sure the sociopaths at oracle have the fingers on the pulse of the younger generations. They’re just going to up the censorship and enshittfy it resulting in its users moving on the next new thing.

Oracle hosts data for many corporations, I don't think they will have any moderation input.

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD »

herbst wrote: post #608
0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #584

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If people outside the US complain about what the US does, we should stop doing it. The fact that everyone complains about US foreign policy means we need to course-correct. No one complains about Swiss foreign policy. I think we agree, since we're both against NATO. Not sure why you're trying to argue with me.

According to swiss news orange man does in fact complain about swiss foreign policies to the American public.

News to me.
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