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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by sgarland »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I made the mistake of updating my phone, and immediately regretted it. We tried Liquid Glass already, it was called mid-aughts Windows. It sucked then, and it sucks now.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by rcarmo »

tkiolp4 wrote: post #201
crinkly wrote: post #84

Running it already. Seems pretty solid. No compatibility issues. UI changes are fairly ok. Glad they got rid of launcher and merged it into spotlight.

Never used spotlight. I have it disabled permanently. I don’t like the indexing.

If you ever used Quicksilver, the new Spotlight feels a lot like it.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by _2d30 »

I decided to install this and the updated iOS today to see how I felt about it.

My very initial impressions on MacOS:

(1) I like the look of Safari better and the Mail app compared to the prior designs. They both look really nice to me and the Mail app especially looks like a huge improvement in terms of design unification with some of the features like summaries and unsubscribe options that looked bolted on in the past now blending in seamlessly.

(2) I really, really don't like the new icons! Especially so on iOS.

(3) On iOS the app group/folders look terrible to me with the way they distort my wallpaper. Not a fan.

(4) A lot of people are complaining about transparent icons. It's not a valid complaint and is strong evidence whoever is saying that hasn't used the new OS as that is a choice you can make if you want. The default is not transparent.

(5) The increased radii in some places doesn't seem to have any meaningful impact to my information density. A simple comparison of Chrome (old styling) and Safari (with the liquid glass design) shows that Safari has a few pixels fewer in height search + tab bar as a concrete example.

(6) Messages app in MacOS looks like shit. I hate almost everything about it.

(7) Spotlight search has marked improvements! UI is nicer and functionality has expanded greatly (eg clipboard search).

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by coldtea »

Anytime a UI redesign comes with bullshit abstract designer justifications ("a translucent new material that reflects and refracts its surroundings", etc) you know it's bad.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by _2d30 »

nomel wrote: post #230
_2d30 wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do that? If they did any investigation into the accessibility options whatsoever then they wouldn't be able to treat us to Kanye style analysis.

I'm sorry, but that's not a logical stance. If this were the method that anyone in the industry used (which absolutely nobody does) all interfaces would be high contrast 150pt font, no transparency, two color, because that's what my grandma needs.

My post is agreeing with you. It's sarcasm. Please try to parse it again.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by rcarmo »

rvrb wrote: post #227
rcarmo wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I count four different corner radius sizes currently on my screen, which is maddening. Apple has a thing against people with OCD. Or taste. The thing is horribly wasteful of screen real estate, and as someone who’s been writing a Mac blog for over two decades, I am so happy I started using Fedora two years ago—GNOME has its flaws, but it looks nicer than Tahoe.

Fedora Silverblue is the closest feeling to the macOS experience I fell in love with that I’ve had on Linux in, well, ever. Very happy with it on my desktop and laptop. It’s not perfect but it is less imperfect than modern macOS has become. Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however.

I have a couple that work quite well with it, including a very nice 10” one - https://taoofmac.com/space/reviews/2025/05/15/2230

And I run a macOS-like GNOME theme that is pretty great.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by jaredklewis »

coneonthefloor wrote: post #228

The GUI of an OS has never concerned me. Seems like a red flag when the main selling point is a slight bit of transparency.

Well, that's why there is a lot of complaints.

The main selling point of a macbook is not a UI with transparency. It's hardware stuff (like ARM processors, battery life, aluminum frames, etc..) and a decent, stable, unix-ish software environment. No one is using macOS for the visual effects, so it is annoying that Apple is revamping the UI everyone is used to in order to add more visual effects.

Seems nuts to me, but I'll be curious to see how this all pans out.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by awesome_dude »

rvrb wrote: post #227
rcarmo wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I count four different corner radius sizes currently on my screen, which is maddening. Apple has a thing against people with OCD. Or taste. The thing is horribly wasteful of screen real estate, and as someone who’s been writing a Mac blog for over two decades, I am so happy I started using Fedora two years ago—GNOME has its flaws, but it looks nicer than Tahoe.

Fedora Silverblue is the closest feeling to the macOS experience I fell in love with that I’ve had on Linux in, well, ever. Very happy with it on my desktop and laptop. It’s not perfect but it is less imperfect than modern macOS has become. Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however.

Are you using Fedora on the Mac (via Asahi)?

Or are you using Fedora on an Intel/AMD laptop?

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by stevage »

lysace wrote: post #203
00deadbeef wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything I've seen of it looks a disaster. I'll wait for macOS 27.

Waiting an extra year to jump on new macOS releases has been the norm for sane people for quite some time now. It sucks if you buy a new mac which isn't supported by older macOS releases though, so maybe don't do that for a year or so. I guess you sometimes just have to put your new Apple device in storage for a year until there's functional software.

For me I simply don't upgrade ever until I'm forced to, usually by an app that I want to use.

As someone without an iPhone and who doesn't really use included desktop apps, there are simply never any improvements in the OS for me, only regressions.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by dijit »

christophilus wrote: post #113
12_throw_away wrote: post #79

I swear I don't usually complain about UI styling updates, because it's usually not a big deal - but this looks really, really bad [1]. It's less functional with bizarre transparency choices destroying legibility, and big rounded corners taking up more dead space. And stylistically, the layouts just look unbalanced and amateurish (It reminds me of what happens when I attempt to do CSS layouts). Most Linux desktops un…

Wow. I know I’m not the first to say it, but it really does give me Windows Vista vibes. No bueno.

vista was pretty nice looking tbh (or, it was to me, especially the black ultimate edition with the frosted glass).

It just chugged like madness, the UAC dialogs were slow to fade in (and numerous) and the widgets and moving wallpaper was about 10y too early.

I was distinctly not happy with the control panel changes, but hindsight tells me that I should have been.

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