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We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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Re: We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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Post by samrus »

safety1st wrote: post #465
wvh wrote: post #462

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What I like about your comment is that it points out that all technical work-arounds are moot if people as a whole are not willing to stand up with pitchforks and torches to defend their freedoms. It will always come down to that. A handful of tech-savvy users with rooted devices and open-source software will not make a difference to the giant crushing machine that is the system. And I'm afraid most of us are part of…

Only competition can provide a solution. We have lost sight of this principle even though all Western democracies are built on the idea of separation of powers, and making it hard for any one faction of elites to gain full control and ruin things for everyone else. Make them fight with each other, let them get a piece of the pie, but never all of it. That's why we have multiple branches of government, multiple partie…

This doesnt work if the market incentives themselves encourage these rent seeking actions.

We have given capitalists more and more power pver the last few decades and instead making things better, its just allowed them to nueter the government regulations that would have prevented them from fucking common people over. The market can not solve for this the same way it cant solve for education or the military. This needs laws

Re: We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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Post by turblety »

safety1st wrote: post #465
wvh wrote: post #462

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I like about your comment is that it points out that all technical work-arounds are moot if people as a whole are not willing to stand up with pitchforks and torches to defend their freedoms. It will always come down to that. A handful of tech-savvy users with rooted devices and open-source software will not make a difference to the giant crushing machine that is the system. And I'm afraid most of us are part of…

Only competition can provide a solution. We have lost sight of this principle even though all Western democracies are built on the idea of separation of powers, and making it hard for any one faction of elites to gain full control and ruin things for everyone else. Make them fight with each other, let them get a piece of the pie, but never all of it. That's why we have multiple branches of government, multiple partie…

I wish this was a higher up comment because it's such an important point, and it's totally an achievable thing.

Governments should be supporting this competition, or at the very least not encouraging monopolies/duopolies. Give loads of support/help to startups, small businesses. Let the large corps fund themselves.

But instead, we end up giving them huge tax breaks, anti-competitive legislation and even give them a voice in government.

Re: We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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Post by martijnvds »

alexvitkov wrote: post #472
extraisland wrote: post #284

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Everything in life is about trade-offs. Certain trade-offs people aren't going to make. - If you want to run an alternative operating system, you got to learn how it works. That is a trade off not even many tech savvy people want to make. - There is a trade-off with a desktop OS. I actually like the fact that it isn't super sand-boxed and locked down. I am willing to trade security & safety for control. > Personally…

No, not everything is a trade-off. Some things are just good and some are just bad. A working permission system would be objectively good. By that I mean one where a program called "image-editor" can only access "~/.config/image-editor", and files that you "File > Open". And if you want to bypass that and give it full permissions, it can be as simple as `$ yolo image-editor` or `# echo /usr/bin/image-editor >> /etc/y…

This is getting a lot better with Flatpaks and Wayland (and its "portal" system to access resources).

Re: We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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Post by protocolture »

nialse wrote: post #416
nialse wrote: post #282

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There are power rankings where these top companies are considered more influential than many nations. https://www.realbusinessrescue.co.uk/advice-hub/companies-wo... https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/29/so-who-watches-the-watchme... https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/sep/23/amazon-tesl...

Sorry for the terrible formatting. Tried to fix it but the last edit seems to have borked it completely. www.realbusinessrescue.co.uk/advice-hub/companies-worth-more-than-countries techcrunch.com/2023/06/29/so-who-watches-the-watchmen www.theguardian.com/business/2024/sep/23/amazon-tesla-meta-climate-change-democracy EDIT: Now in plain text since the last URL does not show up otherwise. And why is it rendering with -…

Influence and power are related but separate concepts.

And often the influence of an organisation is related to the state willing to back it. The US intervening for Tesla for instance. And China Petroleum wouldnt be so big if it wasnt for the chinese state.

Re: We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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Post by okasaki »

yardstick wrote: post #294
colordrops wrote: post #195

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Yes but in the phone space the sacrifice is too much. You often times forgo the ability to even participate in many aspects of society, e.g. banking. It's not your typical "rough around the edges open source alternative", it's just not even a comparison.

Can’t you do banking on the web via your phone? Same as desktop users?

I heard some banks don't have web sites, only apps.

Re: We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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Post by fsflover »

hnuser123456 wrote: post #29
idle_zealot wrote: post #4

This makes the point that the real battle we should be fighting is not for control of Android/iOS, but the ability to run other operating systems on phones. That would be great, but as the author acknowledges, building those alternatives is basically impossible. Even assuming that building a solid alternative is feasible, though, I don't think their point stands. Generally I'm not keen on legislatively forcing a deve…

GrapheneOS?

Forces users to directly give money to Google and to rely on Google's OS underneath.

Re: We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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Post by xandrius »

fastball wrote: post #434
Aachen wrote: post #430

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Nobody said that... You can keep your device enslaved to Apple all you want. You don't have to use the administrator permissions on Windows if you don't want them. Some of us do want freedom You've got it completely backwards that having the option to control your hardware means you, as an individual, are impacted by anything at all if you don't want to administrate your own device

How do you enable administrator permissions on your Windows computer?

Install the version of Windows that allows you to do that.

Re: We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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Post by fsflover »

idle_zealot wrote: post #4

This makes the point that the real battle we should be fighting is not for control of Android/iOS, but the ability to run other operating systems on phones. That would be great, but as the author acknowledges, building those alternatives is basically impossible. Even assuming that building a solid alternative is feasible, though, I don't think their point stands. Generally I'm not keen on legislatively forcing a deve…

> as the author acknowledges, building those alternatives is basically impossible

I don't understand why everybody is ignoring existing, working GNU/Linux phones: Librem 5 and Pinephone. The former is my daily driver btw.

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