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Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs

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Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs

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The other poster likely presented themselves as a company, service contract and all: you presented yourself as a retail customer, thanks to Amazon They offer... what? The same insurance one might get at Boost Mobile. edit: To be fair, I haven't read your link/agree in spirit: faulty is faulty, responsibility, etc. There is a difference, though.

Oh, sure. They’re not going to fly someone out to fix a retail customer’s monitor. I get that and would never expect that level of service. And yet, they doubled down hard on refusing to replace my defective 6 month old, still under warranty, screen. Amazon was the hero in this story. They listened to my story and gave me a refund, which I spent with a different brand. It felt wonderful explaining to their enterprise…

Ah yes. I've also had the joy of telling off a professional account manager because of piss-poor consumer support (in my case, it was DHL). It's a great feeling :)

Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs

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Pretty sure they blamed the user holding their iphone wrong.

To Be fair, you are not supposed to hold in the one place where it disconnects

Was there anything in the product manual or packaging to tell the user this?

Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs

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Related thread, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45041743 ( "GMP damaging Zen 5 CPUs? (gmplib.org)" —18 hours ago, 192 comments)

From that article: > While similar, it is not the widely reported Asrock motherboard problem, as the motherboards we use are of a different make

That quote seems to imply that the issues are similar and therefore related?

Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs

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You mean like the butterfly keyboard in my MacBook Pro 2016, which could be destroyed by a few specs of dust, and took years for Apple to acknowledge?

Funny, but I had that butterfly keyboard for many years (until I got an M2) and never had a problem. It’s no mechanical keyboard to the fingers, but it worked fine.

Fine dog hair is kryptonite to it, and similar keyboards from other manufacturers. Its a fine design if you live in a clean room.

Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs

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That's why I like Apple's vertical integration. If something breaks it's 100% their fault that they need to make right to the consumer, they can't tell you to GTFO and go blame someone else to escape responsibility.

Maybe this will open your eyes. Dell support has flown a repair guy to my place with spare hardware pieces and fixed my pc in front of me. In my office. And I was partially to blame for the problem (I over clocked the CPU). I told them I did oc the CPU, they changed motherboard and processor anyways. For free. So not only there are other verticals, but they are better.

We use dell a lot where I work. Their fault rates aren’t noticeably better than others but their ability to fix problems is much better. Bios updates are provided well past warranty periods and the hardware they use is well supported by non-windows operating systems.

Last five pcs and laptops I bought personally were all Dell. Latest latitude I bought worked with OpenBSD with no issues.

Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs

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Maybe this will open your eyes. Dell support has flown a repair guy to my place with spare hardware pieces and fixed my pc in front of me. In my office. And I was partially to blame for the problem (I over clocked the CPU). I told them I did oc the CPU, they changed motherboard and processor anyways. For free. So not only there are other verticals, but they are better.

All of these companies have good and bad stories. I’ve been in the IT biz for a long time and have lots of stories of heroics and villainy. I can think of a bad one where a significant number of laptops and 1st party docking stations were deployed. There was an issue where in certain scenarios plugging into the dock would brick the dock. It affected ~5% of the population in 90 days. Vendor response: fuck you. One of…

Hope they got the intern of the year award.

Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs

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The same Dell sold me a new monitor through their Amazon store, and when it broke a few months later — as that model became infamous for — Dell refused to replace it because their inventory system claimed I wasn’t the first owner: https://honeypot.net/2021/02/19/dell-doesnt-honor.html Funny how experiences with the same company can be so drastically different. You got white glove service. I got service so bad that I…

Could this be because of Amazon's "commingling" [1], where they throw products ordered from different stores all in one big pile, mixing the counterfeits with the real ones? [1] https://www.buffalo.edu/news/tipsheets/2024/amazon-commingli...

Maybe, but that should be between Dell and Amazon. I bought it through Dell’s store in Amazon, so Dell put their endorsement on the buying process.
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