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Remember when the CDC started tracking gun violence as an "epidemic"? Surely someone should but the CDC doing so is clearly outside of its charter. That was one major moment that betrayed the CDC becoming a political and not a scientific organization

Great timing with this comment, as 20 children are shot in a church.

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

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Is this about the upcoming reveal of the autism findings, or is the article just feeding that as the cause? I thought the understanding for base rates of autism was that people are living longer and starting their lives later. Becoming financially stable later, having children later. Having children later rather than earlier significantly increased the risk of autism. After that then the question becomes about intens…

> Is this about the upcoming reveal of the autism findings, or is the article just feeding that as the cause?

No, it's almost certainly about vaccine science and recommendations. Hence all the other resignations today.

(though who knows, maybe RFKjr will really go for it and bring back full-throated vaccines==autism next week)

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Remember when the CDC started tracking gun violence as an "epidemic"? Surely someone should but the CDC doing so is clearly outside of its charter. That was one major moment that betrayed the CDC becoming a political and not a scientific organization

What is your threshold for epidemic?

Does 47,000 deaths per year (13.7 per 100,000) not qualify?

Why are you even complaining (trolling)? After decades of pressure, the gun lobby (NRA, GOA, etc) has finally eliminated CDC's role in researching gun violence.

Is outright victory insufficient? Must you continue to belabor the point?

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These people have no trouble listening. They're deeply into people like Rogan, Trump, their pastor, RFK etc. and eat up their every word.

They will listen to anyone who tells them what they like to hear. They will not listen to anyone who tells them what they don't like to hear. They shop around for truths they prefer like they're items at Costco.

Somewhere along the line they had to develop preferences which indicates some level of listening.

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Thats interesting, do you have some references?

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/guns-remain-leading-cause-... https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761 https://www.kff.org/mental-health/child-and-teen-firearm-mor... https://www.google.com/

I thought you were talking about work, its not clear you were talking about guns in your comment.

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The inability for intelligent people to frame their policies and positions in ways very stupid simple people can understand is the biggest failing of the last 50+ years if not longer.

At this point, I don't think it's an inability - all sorts of messages get broadcast - but an unwillingness to actually talk to people with different worldviews. The easy way to spread a pro-health message to the people who really need to comply with it is to say "letting disease spread is Nergal worship (2 Kings 17:30), and America is a Christian nation." Just spam that, nonstop, until it is as embedded in their min…

Why would they listen to nonsense that makes them uncomfortable, as opposed to their expressed preference of listening to nonsense that makes them comfortable?

It doesn't matter how much you cite Matthew 19:24 to someone who already had their brain rotted by, say, prosperity gospel. They don't give a shit.

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It's a crying shame that given the choice, the voters picked the modern-day equivalent of Lysenkoism[1]. [1] Which due to the timing of its adoption and abandonment did avoid outright causing famines in the Soviet Union... And went on to kill tens of millions of people in China.

> the modern-day equivalent of Lysenkoism

Another communist parallel: MAGA is aimed in the general direction of a Great Leap Forward [0] to screw over the American economy and industry with incompetent autarky, and also a Cultural Revolution [1] for persecuting "woke elites" (subject-matter experts) leading to international brain-drain.

I really hope the American people can put the brakes on that, because it took China decades to recover.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

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You can't people that stupid shouldn't actually get a vote in the matter.

and when you get to this point, you show your true colors and the dumbest, meanest animal is still gonna recognize your nature. you have to respect people, you have to care about their agency even to their detriment or else who are you saving?

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