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CDC officials’ resignation emails

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Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

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Post by voidfunc »

mankyd wrote: post #28
voidfunc wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The inability for intelligent people to frame their policies and positions in ways very stupid simple people can understand is the biggest failing of the last 50+ years if not longer.

> in ways very stupid simple people can understand The problem is rarely the ability to understand. It is the ability (or desire) to listen that many lack.

These people have no trouble listening. They're deeply into people like Rogan, Trump, their pastor, RFK etc. and eat up their every word.

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

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Post by protocolture »

ajross wrote: post #26
vkou wrote: post #6

It's a crying shame that given the choice, the voters picked the modern-day equivalent of Lysenkoism[1]. [1] Which due to the timing of its adoption and abandonment did avoid outright causing famines in the Soviet Union... And went on to kill tens of millions of people in China.

> It's a crying shame that given the choice, the voters picked the modern-day equivalent of Lysenkoism[1]. Those voters (who needless to say had never heard of Lysenko) were told by trusted, well-spoken, authoritative, legitimate seeming sources that this was a mainstream position and a very reasonable one. The people who needed to say it was bullshit were deliberately excluded. And yeah, that applies specifically to…

Modern social media teaches you to either engage if the topic gives you happy brain feels, or disengage completely so it never shows up in your feed. The more you "fight" a cause, the more you promote it and the more you see it.

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

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Post by Esophagus4 »

I hope these people are able to find other ways to protect the public from disease, even if not at CDC.

I respect their decisions, but our country deeply needs scientists so committed to the Hippocratic oath that they’d rather resign than contribute to endangering public safety.

Those who do not seek power are most fit to hold it.

I have nothing really to say other than this is saddening to read.

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Post by throwawaymaths »

amazingamazing wrote: post #32

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Remember when the CDC started tracking gun violence as an "epidemic"? Surely someone should but the CDC doing so is clearly outside of its charter. That was one major moment that betrayed the CDC becoming a political and not a scientific organization

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Post by ceejayoz »

throwawaymaths wrote: post #35
amazingamazing wrote: post #32

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Remember when the CDC started tracking gun violence as an "epidemic"? Surely someone should but the CDC doing so is clearly outside of its charter. That was one major moment that betrayed the CDC becoming a political and not a scientific organization

Help me understand how gunshot wounds have nothing to do with public health?

They study the other common forms of death/injury. If anything, giving guns a special exemption from scrutiny is the political move.

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

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Post by ajross »

protocolture wrote: post #33
ajross wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a crying shame that given the choice, the voters picked the modern-day equivalent of Lysenkoism[1]. Those voters (who needless to say had never heard of Lysenko) were told by trusted, well-spoken, authoritative, legitimate seeming sources that this was a mainstream position and a very reasonable one. The people who needed to say it was bullshit were deliberately excluded. And yeah, that applies specifically to…

Modern social media teaches you to either engage if the topic gives you happy brain feels, or disengage completely so it never shows up in your feed. The more you "fight" a cause, the more you promote it and the more you see it.

FWIW HN doesn't have personalized feeds like that. We all see the same front page. But regardless:

The loons loved it indeed, and it was all over the front page. Right here. Blaming that on the rest of us seems ridiculous, but sort of besides the point. I don't care about blame, I'm saying that whoever you want to blame, it is us, right here, on HN, not some abstract "voters". We made this problem. We told people that masks didn't work and vaccines were poison. If not you and I personally, people writing prose in proxy for us did.

On balance, Hacker News stood solidly on the side of RFK2 and against the CDC in this particular war. It just did.

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Post by yahway »

voidfunc wrote: post #27
vkou wrote: post #6

It's a crying shame that given the choice, the voters picked the modern-day equivalent of Lysenkoism[1]. [1] Which due to the timing of its adoption and abandonment did avoid outright causing famines in the Soviet Union... And went on to kill tens of millions of people in China.

The inability for intelligent people to frame their policies and positions in ways very stupid simple people can understand is the biggest failing of the last 50+ years if not longer.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

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Post by [deleted] »

ceejayoz wrote: post #36
throwawaymaths wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when the CDC started tracking gun violence as an "epidemic"? Surely someone should but the CDC doing so is clearly outside of its charter. That was one major moment that betrayed the CDC becoming a political and not a scientific organization

Help me understand how gunshot wounds have nothing to do with public health? They study the other common forms of death/injury. If anything, giving guns a special exemption from scrutiny is the political move.

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Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

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Post by throwawaymaths »

ceejayoz wrote: post #36
throwawaymaths wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when the CDC started tracking gun violence as an "epidemic"? Surely someone should but the CDC doing so is clearly outside of its charter. That was one major moment that betrayed the CDC becoming a political and not a scientific organization

Help me understand how gunshot wounds have nothing to do with public health? They study the other common forms of death/injury. If anything, giving guns a special exemption from scrutiny is the political move.

Plenty of other organizations public and private already handling this issue. No need to waste funds on it. Anything less is a dangerous distraction for the CDC which really needs to focus on its core competency -- protecting the us from pathogenic threats. Should the department of HUD send rockets to space? Of course not.
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