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Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Post by adastra22 »

lolc wrote: post #101
mchusma wrote: post #86

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I think anyone who says there is nothing interesting in Rand either didn’t read it or is acting in bad faith. Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead are uniquely fascinating even if you don’t agree with her stance. Chris Hedges is a self reported socialist. So makes sense they would not like books negative on socialism. But you can be a socialist and still engage with competing thoughts. Just like a capitalist can review Ma…

I liked reading Rand much as I liked reading Tolkien. Now if I try to read either, the fantasy just doesn't work anymore. Oh and even back then Atlas Shrugged was too damn preachy.

Hey them be fighting words… about Tolkien, not Rand.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Post by adastra22 »

anthem2025 wrote: post #107
bitwize wrote: post #104

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Back when I was growing up, tech people read things like Snow Crash all the time. I guess I need to update my priors.

Tech people vs startup types.

Those used to be the same people.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Post by adastra22 »

VincentEvans wrote: post #38

Last time meta blocked my account was because I gave away free framing lumber after demolishing my poorly framed basement. Somehow it got flagged and that was that. Thankfully I don’t give a damn, and now never will. Ps: some couple happily picked up 100 or so 2x4 studs of various lengths to build a greenhouse for their garden with.

They must have assumed it was a scam, like those Nigerian prices offering free gold.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Post by slyall »

lolc wrote: post #101
mchusma wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think anyone who says there is nothing interesting in Rand either didn’t read it or is acting in bad faith. Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead are uniquely fascinating even if you don’t agree with her stance. Chris Hedges is a self reported socialist. So makes sense they would not like books negative on socialism. But you can be a socialist and still engage with competing thoughts. Just like a capitalist can review Ma…

I liked reading Rand much as I liked reading Tolkien. Now if I try to read either, the fantasy just doesn't work anymore. Oh and even back then Atlas Shrugged was too damn preachy.

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.

One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Post by nxrabl »

bko wrote: post #102
glimshe wrote: post #88

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If Mark Zuckerberg didn't exist, we'd still have Facebook. Someone else would have done it. But if Neal Stephenson didn't exist, we'd not necessarily have what he created. That's how unique his ideas are. And Meta, billions of dollars later, is still no Metaverse...

> If Mark Zuckerberg didn't exist, we'd still have Facebook. Yes, because multi-trillion dollar companies are completely natural and spawn almost at random to whatever nerd happens to be working on a particular problem at any given time

Note that GP didn’t say Meta, the trillion-dollar company, they said Facebook, the social platform that won its generation of social platforms. One of those platforms was bound to win, just by the interconnected nature of social networks, and I think reasonable people can disagree on whether that success sets you up inevitably to make a trillion dollars or not.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Post by maxwell-neumann »

epgui wrote: post #42

I believe I have accumulated two moderation strikes on my Facebook account for (relatively politely) calling out posts for being racist/xenophobic. Both cases my comments were flagged as promoting hate, ironically. The appeal mechanism is a joke: you press a button, and two seconds later you get a notification saying your appeal was reviewed and denied.

I’ve experienced something similar in attempting to report very explicit and outrageously racist posts and comments. Zero action on blatant neo-Nazism (including specific threats of violence), and several lost appeals. However, far more benign posts and comments that don’t really violate the ToS are often flagged. This is quite prevalent on Instagram especially, which is quite worrying as it’s acting as a radicalisation tunnel for large numbers of impressionable young people. It’s almost as if the algorithm attempts to throw you into a far-right rabbithole because they know it boosts engagement.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Post by 2980672166760 »

vkou wrote: post #72
pesus wrote: post #54

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I got a week long ban for calling someone out for being a Nazi. The person openly praising Hitler did not get banned at all. At the time I thought it was mere incompetence, but in hindsight, it seems more like intentional malice.

It's not intentional malice, it's just 2025 - an age where calling someone a fascist or a racist is worse than being one. If that doesn't make a lick of sense to you - it's simple. The latter is an offense against a nebulous, undefined outgroup of people, while the former offends a particular person. It's the same reason why someone can steal a dollar from a million people, but why you'd go to jail for punching the t…

"Everyone I disagree with is a nazi"

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Post by ccakes »

brg wrote: post #109
schoen wrote: post #99

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I would watch a full-length movie of Snow Crash in the style of this trailer! I think it may be a high school student project.

Since I saw Into The Spiderverse, I’ve been hoping for a Snow Crash with that animation style.

Different book/author, but if you haven’t seen A Scanner Darkly then give it a go

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Post by gusfoo »

I made a whatsapp business account yesterday, started a test advertising campaign. Went to log in to the developer area, "Your account is banned, there is no appeal". And whatsapp customer services says "Your account is fine and there are no issues and this ticket is closed"

I really, really don't understand why you have to make a facebook account in order to get access to the developer area, and now I get to watch my advertising spending tick up with no way of accessing anything about it.

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