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Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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I got a week long ban for calling someone out for being a Nazi. The person openly praising Hitler did not get banned at all. At the time I thought it was mere incompetence, but in hindsight, it seems more like intentional malice.

Are you implying that being banned from Facebook is a bad thing?

I'm pretty sure they are implying that it might be a bad policy to not ban nazis.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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I believe I have accumulated two moderation strikes on my Facebook account for (relatively politely) calling out posts for being racist/xenophobic. Both cases my comments were flagged as promoting hate, ironically. The appeal mechanism is a joke: you press a button, and two seconds later you get a notification saying your appeal was reviewed and denied.

I got a week long ban for calling someone out for being a Nazi. The person openly praising Hitler did not get banned at all. At the time I thought it was mere incompetence, but in hindsight, it seems more like intentional malice.

>The person openly praising Hitler did not get banned at all.

Content moderation at Meta is a joke now. I reported an account multiple times for hate speech. The account's photos were comprised entirely of racist caricatures of black people. Like absolutely vile, hateful shit.

Each time, I received a notification along the lines of: [paraphrasing] "We found that the account in question did not violate our community standards. Therefore, we did not take any action. Thanks for the report."

Yeah, OK. Gross.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a week long ban for calling someone out for being a Nazi. The person openly praising Hitler did not get banned at all. At the time I thought it was mere incompetence, but in hindsight, it seems more like intentional malice.

Are you implying that being banned from Facebook is a bad thing?

even if you would think people should be happy about being banned, they always get annoyed

https://medium.com/luminasticity/facebook-deleted-my-account...

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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Meta has extremely opaque account policies. For example, I bought the Meta Raybans a month ago. It kept telling me the AI features were not available in my region, even though I am in San Francisco. I joined Facebook in 2006, and I have used my account for the Oculus headset without a problem. But no matter what I did, the AI function of the Raybans wouldn't work. I ended up creating a brand new account just for that…

my best guess is, you could've connected from a different ip once 10 years ago and it improperly geolocated that ip as being in a tiny country and now it thinks you're secretly from that country even though you've been accessing the site from a US ip forever. it's the only plausible reason i can really think of. unless they set up a "country estimation" ai or a similar newfangled system and it's convinced for some re…

Some GEOIP databases are rotting, near as I can tell.

I’ve got a proxy on random machine in a OVH DC in Oregon. Always properly geo-located to Oregon - until a few months ago.

Now YouTube insists I’m in France. Which is quite entertaining, ads wise.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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For people missing the irony here, the term “metaverse,” that Meta is named after, was coined by Neal Stephenson in his 1992 book “Snow Crash.” In the book, the metaverse is a VR version of the internet with an emphasis on accurate sword fights and realistic facial expressions.

I was really hoping for a Snow Crash movie. That project has been in development hell for years. Instead, we got Ready Player One, which is like Snow Crash for dummies. There's a trailer for a low-budget version of Snow Crash.[1] It's awful. I don't hold out much hope for that project. Snow Crash is about a conspiracy between a media baron and a televangelist to take over the world. That would upset a lot more people…

I'm still waiting for a Spawn reboot and universe now that Dune finally got a big budget version. Apparently Voltron too.

Don't give up hope.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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They are still quoting Fountainhead and thinking they are intellectuals.

A few years back Chris Hedges did a showshow/podcast or something and he was forced to finally read in depth a lot more Rand. I love his defeated responded of "It is amazing just how pedestrian those books are. There is nothing interesting in them.". Hedges is always worth listening to even if you won't always agree but he does make doomers look like utopian optimists.

I think anyone who says there is nothing interesting in Rand either didn’t read it or is acting in bad faith. Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead are uniquely fascinating even if you don’t agree with her stance.

Chris Hedges is a self reported socialist. So makes sense they would not like books negative on socialism. But you can be a socialist and still engage with competing thoughts. Just like a capitalist can review Marx and admit the ideas are important/interesting.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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For people missing the irony here, the term “metaverse,” that Meta is named after, was coined by Neal Stephenson in his 1992 book “Snow Crash.” In the book, the metaverse is a VR version of the internet with an emphasis on accurate sword fights and realistic facial expressions.

If Mark Zuckerberg didn't exist, we'd still have Facebook. Someone else would have done it.

But if Neal Stephenson didn't exist, we'd not necessarily have what he created. That's how unique his ideas are.

And Meta, billions of dollars later, is still no Metaverse...

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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I got a week long ban for calling someone out for being a Nazi. The person openly praising Hitler did not get banned at all. At the time I thought it was mere incompetence, but in hindsight, it seems more like intentional malice.

Are you implying that being banned from Facebook is a bad thing?

Depends on the reason. I'm saying that banning someone for calling out a Nazi and not banning the Nazi is a bad thing.

Re: Meta just suspended the Facebook account of Neal Stephenson

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I got a week long ban for calling someone out for being a Nazi. The person openly praising Hitler did not get banned at all. At the time I thought it was mere incompetence, but in hindsight, it seems more like intentional malice.

It's not intentional malice, it's just 2025 - an age where calling someone a fascist or a racist is worse than being one. If that doesn't make a lick of sense to you - it's simple. The latter is an offense against a nebulous, undefined outgroup of people, while the former offends a particular person. It's the same reason why someone can steal a dollar from a million people, but why you'd go to jail for punching the t…

This was back around 2019 or so, but you're not wrong at all. Back then Zuckerburg et al at least pretended to be against hate speech. It's so much worse now.
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