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GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by moi2388 »

bongodongobob wrote: post #189
827a wrote: post #163

My deepest concern at this time isn't that AI eventually gets written down to nothing; because I don't think it will. Its that these companies are so scared of being out-competed by an AI-first competitor that they're willing to make deep sacrifices to their core businesses just to effectively virtue signal that they're AI first and unable to be out-competed. It is deeply concerning because all things point to realit…

> None of these big tech companies have leveraged AI to build anything remotely interesting from a product perspective. Its truly astounding how bad they are at it. Oh my God, tell me about it. Our C levels are being fed bullshit by all of our vendors about how AI is going to transform their business. Every few weeks I have to ask "what the fuck does that mean exactly?" "Oh, well, agentic AI and workflows blah blah."…

The difference is that I can’t sell elasticsearch in my company, but I can sell an LLM.

Yeah, don’t ask..

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by overfeed »

dboreham wrote: post #161
taxborn wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally there is Codeburg/Forgejo, and for the atproto-enjoyers, tangled.sh is a new face that feels like it could be good.

And gitea (originally a Forgejo fork).

Did you mean to say gitea was originally a Gogs fork?

The lineage of those projects is Gogs => Gitea => Forgejo

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by ivape »

ezoe wrote: post #268
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

You forgot to mention the gaming section. Microsoft is acquiring a lot of game developers, put it on hold for a few years, then close subsidiary and layoff all employees. I guess generating hype by acquisition and increase valuation cause more profit than developing a real product. I'm beginning to think that using Microsoft services(yes, GitHub included) is morally questionable behaviour right now. I can't support t…

Microsoft is acquiring a lot of game developers, put it on hold for a few years, then close subsidiary and layoff all employees.

Sounds like they just bought the IP.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by NickC25 »

throwaway290 wrote: post #156
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Wait Microsoft was cool at some point?

Yeah. Xbox, GitHub, Sataya's early days embracing open source, Zune (admittedly not cool but i loved the product).

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by tough »

ivape wrote: post #273
ezoe wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot to mention the gaming section. Microsoft is acquiring a lot of game developers, put it on hold for a few years, then close subsidiary and layoff all employees. I guess generating hype by acquisition and increase valuation cause more profit than developing a real product. I'm beginning to think that using Microsoft services(yes, GitHub included) is morally questionable behaviour right now. I can't support t…

Microsoft is acquiring a lot of game developers, put it on hold for a few years, then close subsidiary and layoff all employees. Sounds like they just bought the IP.

which begs the question is it just good old EEE?

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by vkazanov »

EGreg wrote: post #108
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

What about Wine? Is that still a thing? Visual Studio Code seems to be their big open source push, besides GitHub. Everyone uses it, and most development environments and UX are based on it. Used to be Atom, I remember.

Valve's steam deck runs on Linux/Wine. Wine is more popular than ever.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by zzo38computer »

rickette wrote: post #119

Lots of comments here remind me of the time GitHub was purchased by Microsoft. It would be the dead of GitHub. While in fact it got better: GitHub Actions (pretty neat CI system) happend under Microsoft. Free private repos happend under Microsoft. Now this time it could be different. But last time wasn't that bad imho.

It did not entirely get better; some things may have improved and some things may have been made worse.

Private repositories is not a feature I use (if I want the files to be private, I will not send them to Microsoft or to someone else, unless they are the intended recipient).

I use GitHub Actions to automatically assign issues to myself,

I think they have changed the HTML in many worse ways; some functions require JavaScripts, etc. They also made mandatory 2FA, and setting it up does not work properly. (I can use the API to get around both issues, for now.)

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by 28304283409234 »

nicce wrote: post #147
rickette wrote: post #119

Lots of comments here remind me of the time GitHub was purchased by Microsoft. It would be the dead of GitHub. While in fact it got better: GitHub Actions (pretty neat CI system) happend under Microsoft. Free private repos happend under Microsoft. Now this time it could be different. But last time wasn't that bad imho.

Has there been any reports whether GitHub actually makes any money?

Github is the trainingmaterial for AI. It's a resource, not a product to make money with.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by __loam »

sho_hn wrote: post #226
bee_rider wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple and Microsoft seem very different companies. Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will even though they seem to regard the Open Source community with total ambivalence at best. Microsoft is the Walmart of operating system providers, that happened to buy a popular Git hosting site and briefly made noises that seemed not awful. In terms of coolness…

> Even among tech people, they have good will Wait, do they? I mostly remember: - A neglected desktop OS with slowly deteriorating quality - Aimless products like the Vision Pro that seems to have failed as the "get the devs excited" premium SDK launch everyone described it as - Rocky start issues on Apple Intelligence, nerfed Siri, etc. - Unexciting iPhone launch and lots of ridicule levied on Liquid Glass It's the…

The rocky start for apple intelligence is what excites me
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