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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Yeah, GitHub is cooked. Now's a good time to consider migrating to alternative forges like Tangled ( https://tangled.sh ; bit of a shameless plug, I'll admit. I'm the co-founder). We've got a more advanced PR flow, jujutsu change-id support and we just launched our in-house CI! https://blog.tangled.sh/ci Long-term, we aim to be the new social coding platform, collectively built in the open.

Plug or not, this is relevant and on-topic. +1 to offset this unnecessary voting behavior.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#102
post #94

Not surprising. The OpenAI partnership is fading. The GenAI as a product space overall is looking a bit frothy and house of cards-ish. GitHub is a strong product that is ripe for GenAI features that make it more interesting. Like it or not this makes sense as a business move. Microsoft is positioning itself for the next phase of the current AI hype cycle where standalone AI products will struggle and the “it’s a feat…

Can’t GitHub just stick to its core business instead of rushing into AI slop? The growth of vibe coding absolutely already benefits GitHub if they maintain the core business.

If they fuck up the core business rushing into AI, then aren’t they likely to get replaced by something else that does the core thing better?

Not to mention all the earnest worries about them reading private codebases to train AI nobody asked for.

You’d think being a trusted source of truth for many critical codebases would be “enough”

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#103
post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

I’m glad Gitlab is still an option, just sitting there waiting to absorb the market pivot if Microsoft takes it the wrong way.

I see more people jump for Codeberg these days.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#104
post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

You really think Microsoft has been ”cool” for the past decade or so?

First the rampant spyware, then they gradually wreck every single piece of software into unusable buggy AI-slop-mess just to play the trashy MBA valuation games.

I still hold nostalgic value for the old OSes (say up to XP/7) but everything after has been nothing but maximal profit extraction.

Dont get me started on Azure

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#105
post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

I’m glad Gitlab is still an option, just sitting there waiting to absorb the market pivot if Microsoft takes it the wrong way.

Additionally there is Codeburg/Forgejo, and for the atproto-enjoyers, tangled.sh is a new face that feels like it could be good.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#106
Am I the only one who found Dohmke’s communication style to be… buzzword forward? For a company whose roots were in pragmatic engineering, I always felt that there was a too-heavy component of hype, particularly around AI, in pretty much every recent public announcement. Yet, despite all the rhetoric and GitHub’s superior position in the industry, they failed to capture the current AI editor market.

Structurally, it seems to make sense for GitHub to be part of Microsoft proper.

Perhaps this is a change for the better.

(PS: despite their “failure” to win hearts and minds, I do recommend giving Copilot in VSCode another look these days. Its agentic mode is very good and rapidly improving; I find it comparable to Claude Code at this point, particularly when paired with a strong model. Related to structure: I never quite understood the line between what parts of this GitHub made, and what parts of this the vscode and related Microsoft teams made.)

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#107
post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m glad Gitlab is still an option, just sitting there waiting to absorb the market pivot if Microsoft takes it the wrong way.

I see more people jump for Codeberg these days.

Or even better, claim full sovereignty (again) and install Forgejo (https://forgejo.org/) on your own hardware.

You'll get the same experience as Codeberg, because Codeberg is in fact running on Forgejo

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#108
post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

What about Wine? Is that still a thing?

Visual Studio Code seems to be their big open source push, besides GitHub. Everyone uses it, and most development environments and UX are based on it. Used to be Atom, I remember.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#109

GitLab is like, really good. No need to put your codebase in the "cloud."

Gitlab is like the SAP of git, something for bloated big corporations. I've never seen a single FOSS repo there.

It seems somewhat popular for developers who want to avoid github. Gnome and KiCAD also use it.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#110
Wait, isn't that the guy that two weeks ago said that we should be embracing AI or existing the industry?

- 2-nd of Aug 2025 Github CEO delivers stark message to developers: "Embrace AI or get out of the industry" https://www.businessinsider.com/github-ceo-developers-embrac...

- 11-th of Aug 2025 Github CEO resigns https://www.theverge.com/news/757461/microsoft-github-thomas...

You can't make this stuff up :) Maybe he didn't embrace AI hard enough, and that's why he is exiting the industry?

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