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GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by coryrc »

pbiggar wrote: post #140
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Not just that, but Microsoft's reputation is in the process of taking a nose dive over its human rights record https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/06/microsoft-isra...

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by iamdamian »

Forgejo is a really great self-hosted alternative to GitHub.

If you've wondered about hosting your own version of GitHub but have worried it's too hard to set up, I'd encourage you to spend even a few minutes spinning an instance up with Docker Compose and poking around.

https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/admin/installation/docker/

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by captn3m0 »

OptionOfT wrote: post #54

I feel that GitHub has gotten worse lately. * Actions are more finicky, both private (paid) and public, they crash and hang more. * Publishing changes without testing them: https://github.com/actions/toolkit/pull/2106 * 5+ second loads on the GitHub mobile app * AI buttons everywhere (Your administrator can pay for CoPilot) * Releasing Node24, completely skipping Node22 in their actions: https://github.com/actions/ru…

Lots of actions repos are stopping active development, including actions/checkout and actions/cache: https://mastodon.social/@hugovk/114987592399377240

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by anileated »

whimsicalism wrote: post #141
dathinab wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes auditors from a security audit

you could barely convince your auditors that using github was okay? well, my opinion of security audits is reaffirmed

Security audits are just theater. If they were not, you could not ever convince them that using a platform feeding unlicensed source (including apparently from private repositories) to their commercial LLM is ever a pass.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by specproc »

pbiggar wrote: post #140
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Not just that, but Microsoft's reputation is in the process of taking a nose dive over its human rights record https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/06/microsoft-isra...

Like IBM in the forties.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by notpushkin »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #158
kriops wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to signal boost the following quote from the URL above: > Forgejo was created in October 2022 after a for profit company took over the Gitea project. It exists under the umbrella of a non-profit organization, Codeberg e.V. and is developed in the interest of the general public. In the year that followed, this difference in governance led to choices that made Forgejo significantly and durably different from Git…

isn't that gitlab also for profit company???

They are, and always were. I think we’re more accustomized to it though, and know they won’t try to pull some shenanigans with the CE at least. I guess Codeberg didn’t trust Gitea in the same way when they decided to fork, but I think as a result Forgejo would be more sustainable, them being a nonprofit and all.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by dr_kiszonka »

icy wrote: post #88
advisedwang wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably "bit of a shameless plug, I'll admit. I'm the co-founder". Lots of HN users don't like feeling advertised to.

Figured it would be better to be up front about it -- and people know they can ask questions.

(I didn't downvote you.) I think being upfront about it is always good. What is even better is stating it in the first sentence and making sure your whole comment is not an ad, except for maybe the "what are you working on" type of threads. This is just my opinion and not something codified in the guidelines, etc.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by layer8 »

jatins wrote: post #165
layer8 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some more indication: > “Just like how Bill [Gates] had this idea of Microsoft being a bunch of software developers building a bunch of software, I want our platform, for any enterprise or any organization, to be able to be the thing they turn into their own agent factory,” said Parikh [the CoreAI team lead]. That Bill Gates analogy seems rather far-fetched, though.

Had to read that sentence a couple of times -- what does it even mean? It's possible Verge may have butchered it

The quote actually appears to be recited from an earlier Verge article [0]:

> Parikh, who transformed Facebook engineering teams, now leads a transformation that he describes as building an AI “agent factory” for Microsoft’s customers.

> ”I described this agent factory idea to Bill [Gates], not knowing that he and Paul [Allen] described Microsoft 50 years ago as the software factory,” Parikh says. “Just like how Bill had this idea of Microsoft being a bunch of software developers building a bunch of software, I want our platform, for any enterprise or any organization, to be able to be the thing they turn into their own agent factory.”

[0] https://www.theverge.com/notepad-microsoft-newsletter/672598...

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by bongodongobob »

827a wrote: post #163

My deepest concern at this time isn't that AI eventually gets written down to nothing; because I don't think it will. Its that these companies are so scared of being out-competed by an AI-first competitor that they're willing to make deep sacrifices to their core businesses just to effectively virtue signal that they're AI first and unable to be out-competed. It is deeply concerning because all things point to realit…

> None of these big tech companies have leveraged AI to build anything remotely interesting from a product perspective. Its truly astounding how bad they are at it.

Oh my God, tell me about it. Our C levels are being fed bullshit by all of our vendors about how AI is going to transform their business. Every few weeks I have to ask "what the fuck does that mean exactly?" "Oh, well, agentic AI and workflows blah blah."

Ok? You want a chatbot? Fine, we're still building a state machine. At best, the LLM is doing expensive NLP to classify the choices.

Something something classify support tickets? Alright, but we're still just doing keyword search, LLMs literally aren't even needed.

I love LLMs and get a lot of use out of them for coding, but I still don't see anywhere that they're going to fit in for core business functions. Anything that is proposed can and should be done without LLMs. I'm just not seeing where they can be useful until they are truly AGI. Until then, it's just expensive NLP.

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