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GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by madeofpalk »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #78
stogot wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heres the thing: it was a dev company with a side-AI business, but now Microsoft has signaled it wants an AI-GitHub with a dev-side business. The features that will be prioritized will be AI not Git improvement

Are there any improvements to be done to Git? It seems like kind of a solved problem, like word processors or spreadsheets… most “improvements” to those are diminishing returns. I don't mean to sounds like an MS apologist, btw. I fully predicted and hoped for an exodus from Github to GitLab or something back when it got acquired — I'm from the Microsux generation.

Not to "git", but to repo/project management there's huge opportunities. They've been building a lot of this over the past few years.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by threetonesun »

Vipitis wrote: post #73

The GitHub website experience is already messed up with forcing Copilot into everything. But then asking for user feedback about new setting options for issues but denying any request for a user default. This surely isn't going in any good direction. What's next ads in commits?

Not commits, but view your repo and see ads for all the paid tier services of the packages you use.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by segphault »

pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Microsoft not being terrible was a zero interest rate phenomenon. The news today is a lot worse than just Github not being independent anymore. It sounds like literally the entire development division is being rolled into this "Core AI" business unit.

When Nadella announced plans to double the company's revenue by 2030, it was pretty clear that the enshitifiction was going to ramp up significantly, but it doesn't seem like it will ever relent now that they have to squeeze out more free cash flow to cover all of this AI capex. Windows is practically malware at this point, they've made extremely deep cuts to .NET engineering headcount, and it's just going to get worse.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by fragmede »

bgwalter wrote: post #91
layer8 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some more indication: > “Just like how Bill [Gates] had this idea of Microsoft being a bunch of software developers building a bunch of software, I want our platform, for any enterprise or any organization, to be able to be the thing they turn into their own agent factory,” said Parikh [the CoreAI team lead]. That Bill Gates analogy seems rather far-fetched, though.

And the prompt engineers running the agents will be sitting in Bangalore. Or perhaps outsourced to Infosys. Microsoft under Gates at least produced real things. I wonder when Apple gets an Indian CEO to facilitate outsourcing.

It was the American CEO Tim Cook which spent some $250 billion investing in training in China, which is more than the Marshall plan (inflation adjusted) or the CHIPS act, for outsourcing the factories to China in which their products get produced.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by cowmix »

milliams wrote: post #69
mdaniel wrote: post #53

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> Gitea support actions like GitHub's Citation needed. nektos/act is for sure not "like GitHub's"

Yes it is. It's not identical, but it is "like" it.

Most of my build config run on either platform (Gitea and Github) interchangeably.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by throwaway290 »

pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Wait Microsoft was cool at some point?

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by chaosharmonic »

brightball wrote: post #98
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

I’m glad Gitlab is still an option, just sitting there waiting to absorb the market pivot if Microsoft takes it the wrong way.

As a Deno user, this news also makes me see more value in JSR. (Relative to npm's ownership, that is.)

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by tonyhart7 »

kriops wrote: post #68
notpushkin wrote: post #37

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Gitea is neat, and the Actions compatibility is promising. Though I’d suggest a fork, Forgejo: https://forgejo.org/compare-to-gitea/

I want to signal boost the following quote from the URL above: > Forgejo was created in October 2022 after a for profit company took over the Gitea project. It exists under the umbrella of a non-profit organization, Codeberg e.V. and is developed in the interest of the general public. In the year that followed, this difference in governance led to choices that made Forgejo significantly and durably different from Git…

isn't that gitlab also for profit company???

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by jatins »

davepeck wrote: post #106

Am I the only one who found Dohmke’s communication style to be… buzzword forward? For a company whose roots were in pragmatic engineering, I always felt that there was a too-heavy component of hype, particularly around AI, in pretty much every recent public announcement. Yet, despite all the rhetoric and GitHub’s superior position in the industry, they failed to capture the current AI editor market. Structurally, it…

Not disregarding all the success MS has had under Nadella but his comms style is also extremely buzzword forward, so there was probably a _synergy_ there

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by beached_whale »

madeofpalk wrote: post #146
EGreg wrote: post #108

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What about Wine? Is that still a thing? Visual Studio Code seems to be their big open source push, besides GitHub. Everyone uses it, and most development environments and UX are based on it. Used to be Atom, I remember.

I don't understand how VS Code is an "open source push". It's technically open source, but open source doesn't seem to be strategically important to it.

Not all of it is OSS. The core language servers are closed, I think.
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